for those who think being on welfare is easy.

What objection is there to the employee paying half. I would have thought private employers would have jumped at that chance to potentially lower their tax burden.

 

Are you serious??!! Are you really complaining about how rough & frustrating it is for your sister to get $250 in FS?! Unbelievable!

One thing here - since her oldest is 22 and in college and the other is 14 - why doesn't she try to get a job?! She's home all day w/no kids to tend to -That way she won't get so 'frustrated' on the phone while applying for $250 worth of FREE FOOD......

So it's terrible that she has to fill out a pile of paperwork in order to get FREE FOOD? Well, dang! My heart really bleeds for her.....And if she applied for cash, she'd suffer the inconvenience of having to take a drug test?

I had worked for the state of WA in the 80's, one of the dept's was working w/the welfare recipients and you want to talk about frustration dealing w/their complaints, w/their incomplete paperwork, thinking they had given you enuf info ... I remember one gal who had had a baby -I asked for the name of the father and she refused to tell me b/c she 'didn't want to make life hard for him'! I finally told her she wasn't getting a dime until his name was turned over to Support Enforcement and slammed her file shut. She finally gave it to me.....

I went to work for a state program taking the recipients who were able to work - the mothers w/babies were left alone - and get them into jobs. Most of the men were willing, but we had a problem w/many of the women who had kids in school all day and they wanted to lay on their couch watching soap operas all day..... one of the women came flying into the office one day and threw her appointment on my desk, upset that her app't was "to early" in the morning. I had set her up for 8:30 and told her I wasn't going to shuffle clients around to please one. She threatened to call her attorney on me... this (*)(*)(*)(*) was going on in the 80's and it's even worse now w/the drug addicts, 'I'm entitled' mentality and more fraud going on.......

I don't understand where people get the nerve to complain and whine that the welfare system doesn't make it easier for them to get FS or assistance! Where do they think this $ is coming from? The hard working stiffs who pay taxes, of course!

 

You haven't been reading this thread so you don't know what your talking about. Otherwise you'd know she has asthma, a bad knee, and is on menopause and having her period every other week so bad pads won't soak up all of the flow.

Oh and she has a job. She is self employed graphic designer that doesn't get a lot of paying customers right now.

 

If they don't pay you... it's not a job.

 

Does that male welfare a job?

 

Nope. You can say having wheels means it's not a car. That doesn't mean you've said everything with wheels is a car.

Female welfare is also not a job.

 

I read your post and know what I'm talking about.... so she has asthma, a bad knee and going thru menopause. If she's having periods every other week, she needs to see a dr! People w/asthma can work and so can those w/a bad knee.... I've seen people in wheelchairs go to work. We had one at the Red Cross - every week she came in riding her small wheelchair and managed very well.....

If she's not earning any or much $ w/her self-employment, well, she'll have to figure out another way to earn a paycheck..... people need to learn how to solve their own problems and quit depending on others to take care of them...

The 22 yr old college kid could get a p/t job to help out - many kids do that. There's a 23 yr old in my family who's worked in a nursing home since she was 17, starting out p/t in her senior yr in HS, working F/T since after graduation and is now in nursing school AND still working F/T..... it can be done! It's called work ethics.....

 

I thought that when you go through Menopause, you no longer get your periods? Is it possible her periods are not actually periods at all, but a sign of something more serious?

 

its a job that doesn't pay well which is a qualification for welfare

 

I don't know. I just know they stuck an IUD in her to try to stop the blood flow and now it comes out in puddles.

 

This makes no sense. Progestin will not increase Menorrhagia. If it increased then this would be indicative of polyps or fibroids which would be hard to miss on inspection as causal.

She should just go have a hysterectomy and be done with it.

 

Both my kids had jobs in college, it's people that think like this that are ruining our country, they actually feel they are owed something by their neighbors,,,,,why?

 

Well, so long as they follow the government line. He who pays the piper calls the tune, after all. That's one of the main reasons progressives desire to fund the arts, artists who live on the dole tend to glorify their benefactors.

 

That's dangerous and she should know that! Why isn't she getting to the doctor?

 

Yeah, that's menopause - the periods start tapering down until they're gone....

If the woman starts bleeding puddles, she better get her ass to the dr!

4 yrs ago, my youngest daughter started bleeding really heavy during the nite and in the am she told her husband to get her to the dr - she had leukemia!

 

That's the liberal mindset.....

I forget about another family member - he's also in college and working.....

 

Absolutely excessive bleeding is often caused by other often more serious illnesses which affect clotting etc... however... given the rest of this thread, my guess is a lifetime of cooz abuse without setting foot in a doctors office except to spit children. This is likely her own fault, and she is too ignorant to get it taken care of.

She just needs to go to a free clinic and get a hysterectomy.

 

When I was in my 20s I thought as you do now. I am not taking the moral high ground here but I would wager if you see a enough pain and suffering you will change the way you think. Or maybe not. I saw family and friends pass away at a rate that should not have happened. It gets old! I wouldn't hope the loss of loved ones on anyone but I suppose it did help me to be more sympathetic. That and another life changing event! Anyway, if that happens (a change of attitude) come on down and volunteer at the mission, we need the help in direct care!

I know at least one person that did that as well! The too skinny young once beautiful woman with beautiful green eyes had pancreatic cancer, and walked with a pronounced limp from pain. She was a single mom with three children, and I noticed her because she and began working at a local market where I had a vending machine for extra income. I noticed that she worked 12 hours a day on some days to make ends meet. She had a guilty conscious and turned in her income which was kind of pathetic to begin with. When she DHS cut her food stamps from $250.00 monthly to $16.00 a month! Not only that she took a hit on some of her other benefits. We took her on as a client, hoping to give her some relief, but she died before we could get her stamps reinstated.

Rev A

 

Did you read the thread? Or did you hit a couple of posts and then get here?

People die for all sorts of stupid reasons. Going too fast on motorcycles. Not taking care of their teeth. It is no more tragic when it happens to someone close to me. I am guessing, like every single other circumstance in this entire thread, that the cause is the fault of the person, and the solution is readily available, but because of laziness, ignorance, or X factor, the person refuses to take care of it, and instead chooses to blame society for the problem... like every single other circumstance in this thread.

Calling a spade a spade isn't heartless.

Not helping your sister get the medical care she needs is.

At some point I just throw up my hands and say "(*)(*)(*)(*) em".

You do realize this thread is about how "hard" it is to be on welfare because her sister had to navigate an automated phone menu, and be on hold, so she could get more free money right?

 

He needs that money so he can have internet access, and spend the time he could be working to help her, posting on the forum.

 

What opinions are there to a philosophy that a social service should only end, when it is no longer needed instead of resorting to more arbitrary forms of command economics to simply end the program, regardless of need?

We could exercise that more "humane" philosophy and lower our tax burden by reducing the need and expense of means tested welfare, with unemployment compensation that bears true witness to the concept and legal doctrine of employment at will.

What would be wrong with allowing persons to potentially go to school as long as they want until they can command, a prevailing market based wage?

 

If we want a "humane" philosophy it should be based upon each of us voluntarily helping those that are less fortunate than us. This requires no government interventionism at all. Forcing someone else to take care of those in need while refusing to do so voluntarily out of our own pockets is not humane by any definition.

There isn't a "legal doctrine of employment at will" and this was pulled from a rectal cavity. The legal doctrine is of "equal opportunity" although "self-employment" is always an option for any individual so long as the government doesn't intervene to prevent it.

I'm 62 and I would still be in college. I loved going to college and would have never left if not forced to do so because of economic need.

 

I know many people who would never leave school under such a welfare state.

 

"Cooz"? Huh? Whut? I looked it up - never heard that expression before....

Well, when someone is bleeding heavily - vaginally, rectally ... wherever! Common sense tells them to get to the dr or ER FAST! I can't imagine any woman living w/this day after day and not doing anything about it....

My daughter went thru the heavy bleeding just during the nite and got to her dr in the am - she had already lost 40% of her blood..... 10 days later she was diagnosed w/leukemia and dr told her she was going into the hospital the next day and she was for a straight month.......

I agree about the hysterectomy for women w/female problems - but a neighbor's 31 yr old daughter had a hysterectomy about 10 months ago, by the new robot surgery and she was butchered......literally. She was peeing inside herself in all different directions..... she had a mass of internal problems and still isn't fully recovered, even after a couple of corrective surgeries....

Well, I wish this poster's sister the best, but it's not going to happen if she doesn't get medical care .........

 

that's because the OP is booshirting.