Gas Supply To EU Stopped Indefinitely - Gazprom

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  1. Zorro

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    FOOLISH GREEN PARTIES IN EUROPE FACE SOBERING REALITY THAT THEY NEED FOSSIL FUELS AFTER ALL:

    'Greens in France, Great Britain, and other EU countries are out of power. They can bash the government for their reliance on fossil fuels to their hearts'' content because they don’t have to put any political capital where their mouths are.'

    They should have listened to Donald Trump's prescient warnings about diversify away from over reliance on Putin's Russia.

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    'The Greens are members of Chancellor Olaf Schulz’s left-wing coalition and are now dealing with the uncomfortable realities of power. And one of those realities is that since Russia invaded Ukraine, German supplies of natural gas have largely been held hostage by Russian president Vladimir Putin, whose pipelines supply Germany with 27% of Germany’s overall energy mix. Before the start of Russia’s war in Ukraine, just over half (55%) of gas consumed in Germany was imported from Russia.'

    But Putin's fuel is a little cheaper than yours, they replied to The Donald.

    'Since then, Putin has played footsie with Europe by shutting down the Nord Stream pipelines for “maintenance” twice — the second time ten days ago. And now, Putin has shut the natural gas pipeline down “indefinitely,” forcing Germany and much of Europe into hard choices.'

    Europe, screwed by Biden, whose Administration is instructing US Energy Producers NOT to supply Europe, tried to come up with a stupid plan to force Putin to sell energy to them at capped prices, Putin, instead, told them to shove it and shut down the delivery of gas altogether.

    'Now the Greens are having to make a great energy leap. As members of the German government they are staring close up at the realities of soaring energy prices. They are having to face the prospect of the lights going off this winter, and of public buildings in major cities such as Hamburg already trying to ration the amount of electricity they use. The Greens’ demand that everybody else join them in a fantastical leap has now reversed into the Greens recognizing that their society simply is not ready.'

    Everyone with a brain was already aware of this. The Greens were blinded by their own smug self-assurance and their reinforcing tribal echo chamber.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a long term memory, and haven't found anything that would make me disbelieve what Russia says, and everything to disbelieve what comes out of Washington, Nato and Ukraine.

    The propaganda blaming the oil companies for our government's policies towards them is just a cover up. Biden has cost Exxon Mobil thousands, if not ten of thousands of jobs as well as the dramatic rise in gasoline prices. It's meant to bring about the World Economic Forum's Great Reset.

    I came across the exact same propaganda in a British paper against BP - so demonizing the oil companies has to be a coordinated plan.

    It's because Putin wants to follow Biden's precedence and destroy Russia's oil industry by killing off the oil executives. By doing this, he's sticking it to the West - so they won't have the fun of capping Russia's oil exports.

    While we're at it, how would you like a nice bridge? It is for sale.


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  3. Bill Carson

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    Of course they need fossil fuels but the notion that it is Russia holding them hostage is just straight up bullshit. The reason they don't have enough gas is because they sanctioned themselves....the morons they are. Since Seimens and Russia are prevented from doing maintenance on the turbines that pump gas to Europe because of the sanctions, they need not point the finger at the innocent party.

    Maybe they can stay warm burning blue and yellow flags?
     
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    no policy caused are oil prices to rise, that is partisan propaganda
     
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    I'm confident that the young people are watching this foolishness, taking notes, and when power comes to them, they will make much better decisions.

    A future, and much smarter Europe will 'replicate the U.S. shale boom' providing abundant energy supplies, high paying blue collar jobs, lower and more stable prices, and the pride of self-sufficiency. Right now the 'continent awkwardly depends on Russia — which provides about a third of Europe's gas.'

    'From the United Kingdom to Poland, companies have tried and failed to replicate the success of fracking in the U.S. Their efforts have been stymied by aggressive political opposition. Europeans are refusing to sign up for the shale revolution because they fear it will sully their scenery, contaminate their drinking water and clog their country lanes. But shale holds the promise of cheaper gas that can boost the economy and weaken Russia's grip on Europe’s energy.'

    'Europe has more recoverable shale gas than the U.S., according to estimates.'

    https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/fracking-europe
     
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    I see you're an optimist. Trouble is that the people running the show are those young people who used to watch. Lib gonna lib. First world candy asses now politicians. Don't know up from down, left from right, zero common sense....hell they think a man can be a woman and don't even know what the hell women are.

    Let it crash and burn. Then, maybe then this leftist utopia dream will finally meet reality.
     
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    Do you have any sense of the harm that occurs to defenseless women and children when a society 'crashes and burns'? I will do everything in my power to work to prevent that, no matter how wholeheartedly I disagree with the views of those it is happening to.
     
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    And now for the ridiculous. The EU is buying LNG gas from China, and where is China getting its gas from? Russia of course. Well Poland did the same thing. They refused to buy gas from Russia and bought it from Germany, even though Germany was getting its gas from Russia.

    In the meantime, the EU can have all the gas they want, but Germany will not activate Nordstream II. They refuse to accept defeat, so let's see what happens when the riots start.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just to let everyone know, Bill Gates wants the Africans to start eating bugs to survive, and yet Russia according to its Ministry of Agriculture, will be able to export up to 30 million tons of grain by the end of the year and completely stabilize the global food situation.

    Now let's see if the 'elites' will allow it.
     
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    Oh, well if you want to do something, then go protest your government that is funding nazis/arming nazis/training nazis....that caused all this bullshit.

    Perhaps support Russia who decided to do something about it....like you talk about it.

    You speak of defenseless women and children but I didn't hear you say diddly about the dead ukrainian women and children killed by ukraine's nazis for the last 8 years. Where the hell were you?
     
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    Glad to hear that you were doing something effective about it. How many ukrainian women and children did you save and give us the details of exactly how you saved them.
     
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    I told the truth. Maybe someone who isn't a greedy, dumb, virtue-signaling SOB can make a difference. That excludes every world leader in the West. It is what it is. It's ****ing nazis...and the POS Zelensky, NATO, and Germany and France that were GUARANTORS of the Minsk Peace Agreements that are to blame.

    I don't support nazis, do you?
     
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    What can any of us do? I can't even afford airfare anywhere.

    But I can vote against Biden. Well, I can vote Republican and get him stopped by Congress, that's about it.
     
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    Zelenskyyy isn't a POS, he got 596 million dollars, mostly from selling things given to Ukraine, and the pallet loads of 100-dollar bills the US sends over.

    So he's a rich POS. That's different.
     
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    You can start by educating yourself of the history of the conflict and not believing the garbage spewed by the Western politicians....who don't give a **** about women and children, just grifts and kickbacks from the MIC.
     
  16. Joe knows

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    Huh huh…. Are you kidding me? What does huh huh get you? Was that part of your debate.

    Was Ukraines boarders attacked or was russias? Who is trying to annex land from who?
     
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    Maybe this helps you

     
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    Nope, doesn’t help at all. Even he admits that those territories were given to Ukraine. Those territories may have been part of the USSR but the USSR is gone. Russia is attacking Ukraine and their borders. You must be Russian or something if you fall for this
     
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    You still don't get it. You never will. Likely because you can't grasp you've been duped by the fake news propaganda machine aka US/western governments. Booo! Be scared of the bear....still in Cold War Goebbels-level propaganda land.
     
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    I do not understand when they talk about EU energy independence. They can not have one by definition as they do not have their own neither gas, nor oil. EU will always depend on someone in this respect.
     
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  21. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about some history. Ukraine in Greek means the 'outskirts' of Russia. Ukraine was never a separate kingdom and that's why they never had a king. When the Mongols invaded, Ukraine was taken over by the Roman Catholic Polish/Lithuanian Empire.

    When the Pope tried to put the Orthodox Ukrainians under Rome, the Eastern half of Ukraine asked the Tsar if he could take them back under his rule - which he did. The rest of Ukraine remained under Poland, and this is why the West and East of Ukraine are 2 totally different cultures.


    When the Soviet Union took over Russia, they gave a large part of Russia to the Ukranian administration. Later on when the Soviet Union broke up, the people in the West and South of Ukraine, weren't given a referendum to vote on whether they wanted to remain with Russia or become part of Ukraine.

    Russia felt that the only way to keep Ukraine intact, since there wasn't any cohesion in the languages and people, was for it to decentralize and federate and this is what the Minsk II agreement was about.


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    Western propaganda lmao. The whole world has acknowledged ukraines borders and the whole world knows Russia is encroaching up on them.
     
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    So this will be Putin's last winter? Excellent!
     
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    No, just a huge decrease in revenue from oil and gas sales which make up the majority of the revenue for the Russian state. If you think that is not going to really hurt then you are mistaken.
     
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    The EU is buying LNG contracts from China and not LNG gas from China. China can only import LNG gas, they dont have the infrastructure to export LNG gas.
     
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