Governor Greg Abbot Jan. 24, 2024

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Did you know that part of that process has an expedited removal process? One which lets an interviewer initially determine if there is a possible valid claim or not to asylum/refugee status? Without having to go through the courts? All it takes is one or two interviews. And until that determination is made the person must be detained. That is not happening. They're just pushing them through and giving them court dates, leaving it up to the courts, which they know is backed up to the gills.

    Meanwhile Kamala is calling for a "pathway to citizenship" (amnesty) for all that have come here illegally. Encouraging more to come in the hopes that they'll be included in that, and if not this time, then the next. Because by now, everyone knows that is what Dems advocate for, amnesty.
     
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    Can you quote that part, and I am curious about it because no admin ever has done that if that is what the law calls for.

    Like I said, IMO there is room for improvement, but those who complain the loudest insist that we shouldn't change anything.
     
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    I wonder if he still thinks busing the immigrants into the interior of the USA is going to fix this problem.

    I agree more needs to be done, but we first need to work with mexico and get them to stop allowing such large migrations through their country. If there was one thing I agreed with Trump, was to push them back where they came from. Some migration is necessary, but it can be too much. When Abbott buses them, he is doing the opposite of what Trump did.
     
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    The Collective will believe Biden's hands were forced to take military action against the MAGA insurrectionists.
     
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    Lol. No, but the might send a US Marshall to take Abbott into custody if he continues to defy the Supreme Court ruling, because continued defiance would meet the legal definition of sedition. Maybe that's what Abbott wants. Get arrested and play the martyr.
     
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    He's been bussing them because the Biden admin refuses to allow them to protect their own borders or send them back. Now he doesn't have to. He can protect his own border
     
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    Do you believe those crossing the borders are invaders and a threat to out nation?
     
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    The ruling was against the use of barbed wire and not Texas’s right to protect the border.
     
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    Yes, the Supreme Court ordered Abbott to remove the wire which blocked the CBP access to the border and to their boat ramps. Abbot responded by adding more wire and by issuing the letter which he thinks his refusal to respect the SC ruling.
     
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    What does the Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 say about "invasion". Is anyone free to define what an "invasion" is? Did the "British Invasion" in the 60s authorize military action?

    Everyone is welcome to their opinion, and everyone is welcome to repeat after Governor Abbott, but common sense and the US Supreme Court makes it clear its about using a State's military power to compliment US Military to repeal an ARMED INVASION / INSURRECTION .


    ArtI.S10.C3.2 States and Military Affairs
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitu...litary-affairs
    Article I, Section 10, Clause 3:
    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

    The Supreme Court has stated that this provision contemplates the use of the state’s military power to put down an armed insurrection

    The Supreme Court has also held that the divestments of state power in this Clause, together with Congress’s express authority to build and maintain the Armed Forces under Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 12 and 13, reflect “a complete delegation of authority to the Federal Government to provide for the common defense” and show that the states renounced their right to interfere with national policy in this area in the plan of the Convention
     
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    The sad part about all this is that the majority of the country (democrats included) would be okay with stronger border control if the people advocating it were not such blatantly awful bigots. Abbot said the other day that it was too bad they couldn’t just murder the brown folk.
     
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    no he didn't.
     
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    https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/11/texas-border-migrants-greg-abbott-interview-shoot/

    Now comes the pivot to “SO WUT”
     
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    What a totally dishonest post (not that that isn’t becoming depressingly common amongst Trump losers).

    You know exactly what the Lost Cause is. Don’t insult anyone’s intelligence by trying to pretend otherwise.

    The only people who still try and pretend that “the race card” has no weight, are in Trump nation. Where the race card is worn like a badge of honor.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Sorry, but any Russian territorial ambitions are Putin’s own,

    And are publicly supported by Donald Trump.

    Just as the GOP is sitting on aid to Ukraine.
     
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    Every right thinking white man should aspire to pass their children's birthright to illegal Mexicans.... amirite? Because that is how all functional nations have operated since the birth of civilization. Nothing but outgroup preference has a proven record for civilizational glory and totally doesn't result in civil war and collapse. Diversity is our strength and monocultures are cancer, just ask China. I wonder what the Chinese will write about our civilization one hundred years from now.
     
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    LINK: A Primer on Expedited Removal | American Immigration Council

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    There ya go.
     
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    Well, its not like Abbot can negotiate with Mexico, or has any power to enforce any agreement with Mexico. He's doing the best he can with what he's got imo.
     
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    This explains why we have so many asylum seekers now. They apply for asylum, and get to stay in US until the courts decide on their case. Like I I said, there is room for improvement, but you seem to like the current situation. Man, did those deportation numbers come down under Trump compared to Obama

    "Undocumented noncitizens placed in expedited removal proceedings are entitled to access the asylum system if they express fear of persecution, torture, or of returning to their home country. "
     
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    Biden has been talking about using F-16's against civilians for years, and now he's setting up a constitutional crisis where he may get that chance.

    Not on my 2024 Bingo card but oh well...
     
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    I keep hearing this rhetoric, yet, it's only coming out of the lefts pie hole. All Abbot is doing is what federal government is supposed to be doing by protecting Texas's sovereignty. If the fed won't, then Texas has absolute authority to do so, as this IS AN INVASION!
     
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    In another thread, there were questions for both sides if they would abide by the decisions made by SCOTUS. Now we know.
     
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    Yep. Now we know.

    They respect the USSC when they rule in their favor, but otherwise they refuse to honor the ruling

    Likewise, they agree with results of elections when they win, but then they lose, they refuse to accept it.

    They try the Constitutional way first, and if it works in their favor, they accept it, and if not, then they come up with Jan-6 and now sedition in Texas.
     
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