Governor Greg Abbot Jan. 24, 2024

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  1. CornPop

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    Asylum officers can deny the applicant out of the gate if they do not present a legal argument for asylum. The law clearly states asylum is for people who have been "persecuted" on the basis of "race, religion, nationality," etc. They're all the same race, religion, nationality, etc as the people in power of the government. Additionally, the law says the applicant "has the burden of proof" for their claim. No proof, no asylum. The people coming over the border have no claim of persecution. They have presented no proof of persecution. They have been trained to say they live in fear of gangs, which is not even remotely close to a valid asylum claim, but the Biden administration has unilaterally decided to accept the claim provided to the migrants by the cartels, again working in concert with the cartels to violate our immigration laws. The migrants are literally paying a gang and working in concert with them (the cartels) to abuse our immigration laws and gain entry into America illegally with the assistance of the Biden administration all the while claiming they're afraid of gangs.

    Thus, if they are not making a valid asylum claim, their application can be denied by the asylum officer, and they get sent packing. However, the Biden administration is not following the law. They are allowing people to say they live in fear of something other than "persecution" and is allowing them to enter the country by abusing a parole loophole that they've concocted via a tortured interpretation of the law. The net effect is they are not enforcing the law and are intentionally allowing millions of migrants into the country who should not be here. And they have intentionally backed up the parole hearings to the point that these people are going to be allowed to stay here for many years which will give time for Democrats to push for another amnesty bill. This seems to be a desired benefit of this lawlessness at the border in hopes that they will be creating a new generation of voters who will be in their pocket due to allowing them to violate our laws and stay here permanently.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't actually. Someone did post a small pic of something that said "The Lost Cause" but I still have no idea what it references.

    How cute that you think it still does have weight. You do realize that being continually called something that you're not makes one immune to the sting it was originally meant to cause? And Dems have been calling Repubs, conservatives, and anyone else that doesn't believe the same things that they do for at least 4 decades regardless if there was actual racism displayed or not (mostly not). Trust me, it means nothing anymore.
     
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    Yes, they do not have a strong case, which is why vast majority are rejected, but it does need to be reviewed by the immigration courts, and not just some guy standing at the gates directing people left and right based on their looks.

    Its weird the people who complain the loudest are also the ones who defend the current system the loudest.

    There is room for improvement, and expedited deportation is one of them, and it was on the 2012 immigration reform bill which passed the Senate with lot of GOP support.
     
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    Not true. The law allows asylum officers to deny an applicant outright if they do not have a claim worthy of adjudication... such as asking for asylum for a reason other than the law allows. But the Biden administration has ordered them to not follow the law.

    Asylum officer does a screening interview. Migrant says they want asylum because they hate gangs. Asylum officer says they agree, they also hate gangs, but that's not a legal reason to apply for asylum. What box do they check for their persecution after the interview to go to the next stage of the process? Race? Religion? Nationality? There's no "gangs" checkbox. It doesn't exist. Gangs aren't government. They don't persecute people. MS-13 and gangs exist in the American cities they are being sent to as well. There is no legal basis to allow the applicant to move forward other than the Biden administration intentionally violating the law because they want this border crisis. The last administration followed the law, and illegal crosses plummeted. The Biden administration changed everything, outside of Congressional approval, to create this crisis.
     
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    There were many reasons it "went down" under Trump. Partly due to Covid. Partly due to policies like "remain in Mexico". Among other reasons.
     
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    Enemies? What enemies?

    I don’t regard a person who takes the arduous journey to the US looking or a job and a better life an enemy.
     
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    Trump said there will be “chaos” if he doesn’t get his way.

    And he’ll be telling his skinhead supporters to stand back and stand by again.
     
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    It came out of your beloved fuhrer’s mouth with regularity.

    And theats of “civil unrest” have been made by extreme right wingers and certain far right GOP politicians every election year in this century.

    Your fuhrer tried to make the old white supremacist dream come true.

    Nobody talks about civil war other than trump nation and the extreme right wing.
     
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    Texas is not rebelling, not attacking the government- it's defending itself. It's correctly concluded that they have no choice but to do the job the federal government is supposed to do. That's legally proper for them. The Biden administration- has committed a gross violation of law damaging Texas, and an offense to every American citizen.

    Any prospect of civil war is created by the failure of the Biden Government, not the objection by the state. What Abbot is doing is taking over the defense of his own state, because the federal government has not only failed, but failed intentionally to do its constitutional duty. There is no question about this at all, and the degree of patience and tolerance of Texas for the abuse, as well as that of the American people has been exhausted.

    I agree that a legitimate Congress would have long since put a stop to this. Unfortunately, Congress is in a state of chaos and dysfunction.
    My staff and I are working to get Congress fixed, as fast as we can. If we succeed, a great many things are going to be done by the rules- because those who refuse to follow the rules will be unemployed.
     
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    You and your staff are working on fixing congress?
    As fast as you can you say?

    Btw, under Biden, more illegals have been arrested and deported than the previous administration. Most of the immigrants crossing the border are doing so legally, following our immigration laws.
     
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    LOL, I snorted! Good one!
     
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    Obviously his strategy backfired. Again, injecting politics into this issue will improperly alter the narrative and more bad decisions will be made. This is the farthest thing from a simple solution, I e., a wall. Have to start setting some baselines, will need to work with Mexico, can't get around that.
     
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    They are not idiots, they know what qualifies for review and what doesn't. IMO the process needs to be changed, but you seem to like the current situation

    Sure. Cool story bro


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    The ones Abbott and DeSantis have been putting in buses and sending into the American heartland.
     
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    I didn't say they were idiots, I said they were ordered by the Biden administration to approve the advancement of individuals with claims for asylum not related to persecution. That's a fact. The Biden administration doesn't deny this.
    Pathetically weak argument, yet it was still expected. The process needs to be changed, yet you're the one defending the process. Hypocritical argument at best. The process can be changed without additional funding from Congress or any additional laws. The administration can do something about this to help make the situation better, but they refuse to do so because this is what they want. Record number of people are entering the country because we have created a magnet by not properly enforcing our laws and allowing entrance by people without legal standing to be here.
     
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    Typical asinine response. The only real unrest this nation has experienced and been from the radical left. The "summer of love" cost over 10 billion in damages... Livelihoods lost and nearly 30 people killed so please... get off your superior high authority with this rhetoric.
     
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    coming into another country in large droves and being financed by the tax dollars of hard working CITIZENS of that country is not that much different from an invasion where they come in and raid and pillage and plunder your goods. Same end result. An invasion is EXACTLY what it is.
     
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    Ok, provide the proof the admin gave such order and we can discuss.

    Saying the process should be improved is a weak argument?

    Well, I guess there isn't much more to say.
     
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    Um, no.....deportations <> apprehensions, although its true apprehensions also went down too due to non-enforcement.
     
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    Backfired? Not seeing how. His concertina wire and national guard was working quite well. And his busing of immigrants to Democrat Sanctuary cities have pushed them to start demanding Biden do something about the border. Where's the backfire again?
     
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    Yup! This guy forced democrats to address ILLEGAL immigration AND I LOVE IT!!!
     
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    I do wish someone could fix congress.

    It’s so ****ed they just need to turn it into a soap opera at this point.
     
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    Are you swallowing that bilge voluntarily, or being force-fed? Ten times as many coming in. If deportations may be higher in number, but will be far less as a percentage. And they aren't legal, the administration is dodging the letter and spirit of the law. A rational person would have to ask why, and there are no clean answers.

    And yes, I am doing what I said I was doing, creating a way to fix the dysfunction in Congress.
    In final steps of development now. Costs a lot of money to take that on and we need to reach millions of people to back it. No politics, no new rules, non- partisan- and absolutely will work.
    If you'd like to help, send $50k or so. More if you can.
     
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    No, it's already a soap opera. That's why it needs fixing. Chaos can't accomplish anything of value.
    Hint: "If all else fails- read the instructions."
    Congress has good rules, it just doesn't enforce them. That's what needs to be fixed.
    It can be done.
     
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    LOL ok and Biden said the government would use F16's on citizens.
     

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