Gun Control needs to be instituted

Japan is right there with us and they don't have privately owned firearms.

 

So if your wife or son or daughter committed suicide you wouldn’t feel bad for them? Wow.

 

That I agree with. But for someone to say guns laws CAUSED more shootings is just ignorant.

 

If they did they would have gotten exactly what they wanted so why would I? I would feel more sorry that I couldn’t enjoy their company rather than feel bad for them.

 

More Guns = Less Crime unless the public is not allowed to carry them.

 

I never argued guns drive people to suicide.

From my previous post: "Would US suicide rates be lower if there were no guns? Who knows. Maybe. In the Western world, suicide rates range from much lower to much higher than US, so it may not be a factor. The real factor are the causes which drive people to the decision to end their lives"

Poverty, unemployment, relationships, substance abuse, depression, PTSD etc are real reasons. Its somewhat different in Japan, where suicide is culturally tolerated and there is less fear of causing shame to the loves ones. As a matter of fact shame avoidance is a bigger factor there, while in US its a lesser factor.

 

Well I have to say thats a refreshing position. Most often gun controllers just want to ignore it (or claim it doesnt mean it says...).

 

If it made arms harder to obtain as Biden touted. Makes more background checks for people between the agars of 19-21. Who knows if that weren’t in place it may have allowed some to defend themselves and stop a shooter.

 

You're basing your argument on 'ifs'. That's weak as hell. Come back to me when you have empirical evidence.

 

That’s all the gun control argument is ever based on and apparently those ifs turned into a big bag of nothing other than violated rights with the last gun control measure. But the morons will keep on thinking it will work and pass more

 

I don't want more gun laws, but gun control does seem to work in other countries. There are many countries with far less guns per capita than the US and yet a much lower crime rate. Shouldn't less guns = more crime if more guns = less crime? Again, I don't want more gun laws or gun bans.

 

Let me ask you this. Have you ever been in a firefight up close and shot someone? A justified one of course? Or do you even know someone who has been, because you would not be so cavalier if you did.

 

You must be a true Christian...

 

Gun control doesn’t work. There are countries with much stricter gun control laws that have higher murder rates than us. I’m not counting homicides because that is stupid. Too many aspirin can kill you too, someone who wants to Kill themselves will, period.


As far as murders there is a different story. Gun related murders we are not in the lead. Unless you cherry pick countries. But if you look at the world as a whole we are not leading even compared to countries with more gun control. Countries such as Belize which is why higher than ours and stricter gun laws. The biggest you can own is a 9mm and only have 100 rounds at any given time.

 

Actually, I’m not religious but I do believe there is a god. Is that the topic here?

 

Prohibition in general does not. History is replete with proof of that

Why compare us to shitholes?

 

I was talking overall crime rates. Someone posted more guns = less crime. Not true. Countries with far less guns also have lower crime rates than the US. Just sayin.

 

No it is not, just the lack of empathy on your part.

 

the better statement is this-when thugs have more guns, there is more crime.
when honest people are well armed crime goes down

 

An armed society is a polite society, but only if everyone is armed. For example, if this guy that killed these people in California had walked in there and every single one of those workers were armed, he wouldn't have even got a shot off. Most likely he probably wouldn't have even tried in the first place unless he just had a death wish. If you enter a store with intent to rob it, and there are 50 other shoppers in there armed to the teeth, are you still going to attempt to rob that store? I highly doubt it...

 

As far as gun control, confiscation, or changing the Constitution goes, it's simply never going to happen. There are more guns in the United States than there are people. Gun owners outnumber our entire combined military and law enforcement by 200 to 1. If they wanted to go with door to door confiscation, I suggest they start in Chicago and Detroit. I'm pretty sure the gangbangers aren't going to just turn them in. Now extend that fight they are going to have on their hands to 49 other states and thousands of cities. Yeah, not gonna happen....

 

The US is pretty well armed and yet our crime rate is higher than countries FAR less armed.

 

I keep telling this to folks on this forum. No way, no how will the US govt ever try to confiscate all guns. They know the debacle it would be.

 

what happened to the abortion fan club's mantra-your body your choice?

 

and there are countries like Mexico where few honest people are armed and the crime rate is off the charts. Police states tend to have lower rates of individuals committing public crimes but then again, the government has a big monopoly of crimes against its population