gun control?

Yeah you'd rather they used home made propane bombs...

 

Actually predictions and the left wing never match. In 1995 after states began to pass shall issue concealed carry laws leftists predicted a blood bath. In fact over the next 20 years gun violence and all other crime declined.

 

Then why do you have a gun?

 

Why do I own guns? Because it's my right, and because I can. Why do people own cars that can do 180 miles per hour when the speed limit is only 75? Because they can...

 

They're fun to shoot, I love hunting, and if the time ever comes when I need it to defend myself or my family, it's there. Think of it like a seatbelt. Would you call someone a coward for wearing a seatbelt? Of course not. You'd probably be just fine if you didn't wear one. But, maybe, just maybe, you go out one day and get in an accident. You'd be very happy you had that seatbelt on. WEaring the seatbelt doesn't mean that you are living in fear every time you drive down the road. Same idea. I always see it as very childish when the anti gun people call gun owners cowards.

 

I'm pretty sure that most people would much rather me have my gun on me than a turkey baster and an ice pick....

 

We keep guns for self defense. I don't expect to use them

The cost of me keeping them is minimal. The cost of needing them and not having them could be disastrous.

 

Aren't "felons" those that already did something they weren't allowed to do?

 

So you fear not having them. My point is made.

 

That's not what he said. Your position is the one driven by fear. Reminds me of a joke:

A cop pulls over an old lady for speeding on a Texas highway. He asks for her driver’s license and registration. When she opens her wallet, he notices a conceal-carry permit.

He asks, “Ma’am, do you have a weapon in your possession at this time?”

She responds that she has a .38 Special in her purse, a .45 in her glove box, a 9mm Glock in the center console, And a shotgun in the trunk.

“Jesus, lady,” says the cop. “What are you so afraid of?”

The old lady looks him in the eye and says, “Not a fu#@%ing thing.”

 

Sigh, it's a free country (thanks to gun ownership). Call us cowards if you want. It won't change anything. I think the real coward is the one that doesn't own a gun to protect his family and expects police officers to do it for him. You fear having to confront violence yourself. you could say "im a ninja, I don't need guns". That will work until someone that wants to harm you has a gun and you don't. That makes you the coward that won't defend himself or his family.

 

I fasten my seat belts when I get in a car.. It is not because of fear. It is just the prudent thing to do. In fact, the first three cars I owned did not have seat belts.

Your point is based on ignorance.

 

From that remark, I can only conclude you are in a constant state of fear.

You have got or will get Covid-19 vaccinations because you fear you will catch it.. You wear a mask because you fear you will catch it..

You lock the doors to your house because of fear someone will break in.

You use your turn signals because of fear.

You check to see if someone is in the lane next to you before you change lanes because of fear..

etc. etc.. The list of things you do because you are in a constant state of fear are endless. You must lead an unbearable existence being in a constant state of fear.

 

-I- did the research that - you - didn't
Why do you claim it took you a long time to research the validity of you arguments when you apparently do not research your argument at all?

Why do you claim it took you a long time to research the validity of you arguments when you apparently do not research your argument at all?

As we saw from my citation of FL law, your claim was false, as is the repetition of your claim, above.
Given that It took you a long time to research the validity of your arguments, why do you choose to make, and then repeat, false statements?

 

423,000,000 guns in the US.
About 10k are used to commit murder each year.
About 24k are used to commit suicide each year.
At least 100k are used in self-defense each year
Please:
- Define the "problem" you see here.
- Demonstrate that said "problem" actually exists.
- Demonstrate the necessity for and efficacy of whatever solution you propose to address this "problem".

 

There are, literally, scores of legal uses for a gun, and thus, scores of reasons to have a gun, none of which have anything to do with self-defense.
If you had taken anytime to do any research on the subject, you'd know this.
Why do you claim "It took me a long time to research the validity of my arguments" when you apparently don't research them at all?

 

You call demonstrably false statements “fun-facts”? LOL

You can not deal in firearms with intent to profit anywhere in the US without an FFL. A FL resident can only sell firearms out of their private collection to non prohibited individuals in FL. Anyone purchasing or trading for a single firearm with the intent to re-sell commits a Federal felony when they sell that firearm.

An FFL is issued by the ATF. They have absolute control over licensing of gun stores in every state and every gun store in every state must have an FFL or they are committing a federal felony. Every physical location dealing in firearms must have it’s own FFL, even if part of a chain.

Virtually everything you believe and post about firearms is false. You post falsehood after falsehood and then refer to them as fun-facts. It would be unbelievable if it was anyone but you.

 

Why are there so many more killings in the US than any other first world nation?

You don't have to believe that it comes down to gun availability, but there's a key difference or two somewhere.

 

ANSWER: Corrupt government/society.

 

Please:
- Define "self-defense" and we can quickly whittle down your false fact, thus "defining the problem" - "demonstrate that the problem actually exists" - and motivate "the necessity for and efficacy of my proposed solution".

 

Two possibilities: either that is EXACTLY what he said, or he jumped into a conversation without knowing what we were talking about. I am compelled by forum rules to not assume that any personal attribute is the reason why a poster writes what they write. So I take what they write in context.

My position may be in part driven by fear. But that fear is real. A friend or somebody from my family... could get shot when they go out on the street, or when they're driving down the interstate, or they go to school... Regardless of the likelihood, it is completely based on reality. The gun advocate's position is 100% driven by fear. And, from what I have read here, a large part of it is not even real.

 

"Then why do you have a gun?"

I have two guns because I enjoy target shooting. When not being used at my gun club they sit in a locked safe. While I am comfortable going out in public without one, I understand there are many who aren't comfortable therefore I support their right to carry.

 

I'm sure you would prefer that my position were based on name-calling, instead of on real facts. Unfortunately for you, it's the latter.

Let me know when you have anything to say about them.

In the mean time, your solution for somebody breaking into your house with a gun is to get into a shoot-out with them, in which.... who knows who will get a bullet. My solution is to make it impossible (or so near to impossible that it would be unlikely) for anybody to have a gun. Nobody gets shot because nobody had a gun to begin with.

 

Sounds suspiciously like our horribly failed war on drugs. With a computer and basic machine tools guns can be manufactured from home. Criminal elements will certainly ensure they are still armed, regardless of what you want government to do. Maybe it’s not that commonplace at the moment, but it is getting easier and easier as technology advances, and would happen if you took away a source of legal guns. Even without home manufacturing, guns would come across the border from other parts of the world, just as drugs do, leaving only criminals armed. Nope, I’m not interested in that “solution”. I want to be able to rely on myself for protection, not government.

 

It is, in part. But that's not the problem. That fear is of something real. "Fear mongering" refers to fear about things that are NOT real. Illegal immigrants are not coming into this country to kill you. The government is not going to enslave you if you don't have a gun.... And even the fear that IS real, only exists precisely because there are so many guns out there.