Have Democrats abandoned the 'my body, my choice' argument?

I don't think they ever believed that. If they did, prostitution would be legal. After all, it's the woman's body.

 

NO, it is NOT just between ""him, his doctor and God"""...if he has any family at all it affects THEM,TOO!

Just lost a Non-Vaxxer, too, and his family was in turmoil...his wife is an invalid and needed help, one of his kids had to move hundreds of miles permanently to take care of her, the family was disrupted, his children and grandchildren were traumatized..
VERY selfish and cold hearted to not get vaccinated

 

seem like you need to come down to earth and stop trying to force your religion on others, if you want to use your religion to run your own life fine, but others can choose for themselves

 

FreshAir said: ↑
same rights as an adult? can I force you to let me use your body to keep me alive

It doesn't...because you have the right to bodily autonomy....no one can use your body to sustain their life....women have the same right.

...and invented miscarriages

"God" doesn't rule.

... and not broodstock..

Yes, THEIR responsibility , not yours.

 

it should be, what should be illegal is for others to force people into prostitution

is marrying someone for money really any different? You think Melania would have married if not for the money?

their body, their choice

 

What are you talking about??

 

Yeah, the old "religion" claim. Tell me then, what "religion" do you claim I follow?? All I espouse is self humility and a faith in God. Can't "force" that on anyone. Just like vaccinations....it's your choice. I sense your hostility toward "religion" but somehow I feel it is just a resistance toward something trying to convict you there is something greater than yourself.

 

no clue, I just know you said "God imparted a trust to women.", as if that meant something to me... my guess is you believe in one of the Abrahamic religions

 

Nature bears testimony to just what I said......you didn't do it.

 

huh? what did I not do?

 

You brought "god" into it....doesn't that make you religious? Yes, it does.

The usual religious horsepuckey analysis..

 

You did not impart your trust in women to bear children. Just because you can "imagine" a life without a Creator does not make you one.

 

lol, I trust women to decide when they want to have children, I don't trust you I or the government to decide for them

your belief in a God myth, makes no difference here to me

 

Why do you think women can be trusted? You obviously don't think individuals can be trusted in other situations.
Why women when it comes to a preborn developing baby growing inside their womb?

It's her body, isn't? Why shouldn't she be able to decide not to take a vaccination? Don't you trust them to know what's best for their body?

Do you think other people in society have more rights over her than a life inside her womb?
(i.e. I can force her to do something because I don't want to get sick, but I can't force her to do something if I am merely trying to save her unborn baby)

 

it's their bodies, they control them, not you, I or the Government

 

And that should of course apply to the issue of vaccination too, correct?

 

correct, I have said that many times

I believe people should take the vaccine, but I am against vaccine mandates

as well, I believe people should wear seatbelts, but I am against mandating it

the list goes on....

but..... I am glad Biden did this, now the right sees the importance of the My Body, My Choice.. as now it affects them personally, let's take it to the SC, get this shot down, make the SC say...... my body, my choice

 

But, I think personal choice could apply to vaccines in way it wouldn't with abortions. Or there might be some analogy there but intentionally and specifically aborting a human being is taking it to a whole other level.
It would be like the difference between intentionally pushing someone off a cliff, versus leaving a discarded banana peel near the edge of the cliff that someone might slip on and fall to their death.

Vaccines are there to try to prevent a non-human phenomena from happening.
Anti-abortion laws are there to try to prevent a human from choosing to kill.
The end outcome might be the same (trying to save life) but one of those is trying to apply to human conduct that is not right. I would argue that a group of people who refuse to take action to prevent a disease is not committing "murder" in the same sense that someone who intentionally chooses to terminate their pregnancy is.
Basically it comes down to deontological versus ontological ethics, or moral rights versus merely a utilitarian perspective.

 

agree, forcing someone to risk their life and limb to have a baby is different, but also similar

in fact, if that person being forced to have a baby dies, it would be murder

 

Just answer the question... No need for dramatics

 

Sorry, couldn't make heads or tails of garble like this : """abortionists say it's a right for the homeowner for the child to kill the child.""

 

So do I! They can make that decision before they conceive a life. Sometimes that life is a potential women!

 

And they can make that decision after conception....ain't freedom and liberty great !!??

 

rape victims do not ave that luxury, you want them to wear burka's too

 

Oh yeah as if rape victims are greater than 1% of all abortions. FreshAir, you are struggling. Don't tell me about Burka's. The President you support by his actions is one of the biggest supporters of Burkas in America. He is doing business deals with Burka enforcers as we speak!