Here is my prediction for November.

I doubt very much anything was stolen. the only reason Biden won, was because he wasn't Trump. Now people want someone who isn't Trump or Biden due to how terrible the Biden term has been. Throw out the last two losers, bring in new ideas.

 

I think we answered the question. If inflation is under control, they won't have a reason to be dissatisfied with Biden anymore. If it hasn't, most will just sit this one out and Biden will likely win by a smaller margin. Because the only remedy for the dissatisfaction with Trump is that he ends up being acquitted. And even Republicans have counted that out.

 

If you are too superficial to delve into the question of WHY there is dissatisfaction, you're too superficial to think of a real solution.

 

Iam well aware why. my opinion just does not align with yours.

 

The only way we might have stopped it would have been to put our troops in Ukraine. If there is one thing Putin fears, it is war with us & NATO.

It is absurd to blame us for the actions of the leaders of other countries. These deaths are 100% on the Russian leadership, especially Putin. We and Ukraine made great efforts to stop it diplomatically when it was evident that an invasion was being prepared in 2022, but Putin had his "plan" and would not be deterred.

 

All the views people may have are limited by their perspectives and prejudices- and the sophistication of their thinking. Thinking is like software, it's vulnerable to corruption.

While our technologies in most things like electronics, chemistry, medicine, and such have grown almost exponentially over the last century- the sophistication of our thinking has not. In many respects, it has actually lost ground as people sometimes fail to properly grasp the advances, see them as reasons to discard basic values and skills rather than build on them. We have failed to focus on developing it to match the advancement of our technology. We have far fewer highly skilled people; far more minimally skilled people. Technologies are stronger- but people are weaker and have become dependent on them.

To illustrate this in a general way, let's take the levels of fundamental skills in the younger generation of today, compared with those in the past. In every basic skill that makes a person capable of meeting the typical challenges of life- the younger generations fail. They fail at basic math, at reading comprehension, in the ability to write and communicate- and sadly in the ability to reason, to solve problems rather than just tie themselves to someone's promising solutions. This is not to say the issue has only affected the younger people; its prevalence has also infected the lazy, the insecure and unsure, and many others who find themselves unhappy with life but don't know how to find their own abilities to cope- and hold the system or society responsible for not providing the world that makes them comfortable. It's led people to believe that the pursuit of excellence and character values... is no longer necessary. They seem unaware of the value of self-respect, independence and personal strength, and how those things give the individual power over their own lives. Not needed anymore, somebody else will fix it.

Such people will selectively hear the voices that validate that. They will listen to leaders who tell them what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear. And they want to hear that broad knowledge isn't necessary because they can google answers to any questions. They want to hear that somebody else will pay their bills, take responsibility for their problems, and much more- all similar. Take the path that looks easy from where we are at now...... Don't look down the road, don't listen to people who have already been there.

This decline in the sophistication of thinking can be very dangerous. For example, people can think they see one facet of a problem and think they understand it all. Then, they will vote for the person telling them they will fix that issue, without any understanding of the problems that approach will create. For example, the belief by many today that the government has an endless supply of money, without the understanding that WE, the people- are the well that money comes from. People are claiming the right to be irresponsible, to think the government should pay our bills, punish those they don't like or believe hurt their feelings. They believe we should be entitled to a reasonable standard of living regardless of our productivity... And that the burden our indulgence placed on the generations of the future, reducing their chance of living in a better world- doesn't matter. The priorities of such people are inverted, just as those of the leaders who promote those perceptions and seek to lower the bar to the point we are all- sheep.

IF we vote for more of that, it will destroy this nation. History proves it. How people vote is heavily influenced by how they think, regardless of party. Are there enough people out there who will still vote for the prosperity of the nation over the accommodation of their personal weaknesses? That's what our next election will tell us. But we should be aware that America is already at the age where democracies fail due to the erosion of values in its people, and that if we fail to correct this now- we lose the Nation.

Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasure. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefit from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship, and then a monarchy.

Alexander Fraser Tytler

 

Biden, in the WH, has the power to take actions that please voters and influence events in his and his party's favor. DJT can only talk, and his right to continue doing that is restricted and in jeopardy. IMO, Biden is in by far the best position to maneuver before the election.

 

Biden will win primarily because Trump will be a convicted felon by the time vote day arrives, and that will cost Trump the centrist votes. I don't see the right getting past inflation, unless gas can come close to pre-pandemic levels.

 

He can't tell the Fed what to do, and they control the levers that control inflation, but so far, they are doing a pretty good job.

 

Speaking of a lack of sophistication, finding some quote on azquotes.com and treating it like gospel is a good example of that, as is generalizing the way you're doing. You can't take a quote attributed to someone from the 18th century and assume that it applies to modern life, modern systems of government, modern economies, and so on. For one thing, we're not terribly likely to wind up with a monarchy, although I could honestly see the Trumps trying for it at some point. No one is out to benefit personally from the public treasury as much as they are..

 

IMO, the equity markets are likely to retreat soon and the Fed will start lowering rates. This usually stimulates a sustained rally and an expanding economy -- probably through the election. But there is never any certainly in politics or the US economy.

 

perhaps, but Islamist banditry in the Gulf area is going to drive up oil and gasoline prices over the next few months which will not be helpful to senile Joe

 

Drill! Drill! Drill!

 

Gaza. The ultra left won't vote for genocide.

 

I think your scenario will play out, but I’ll keep tracking these dissatisfied with the choices voters until I at least see some hard number movement. I doubt that will take place until after the conventions when the general election campaign gets in full swing. When a quarter of the electorate are stating today that they’ll either vote third party, stay home and not vote at all is very significant. The only other time recently we had a quarter of the electorate saying they’ll vote third party or not vote at all was in June 2016.

 

Anybody who doesn't vote, doesn't count. Same for anybody who votes third party. They condemn themselves to being irrelevant in our political system.

 

Unfortunately you sound like the drug addict that says just because others turned into zombies is no reason to think they can't handle it, and has all these reasons to prove they can.

The fact is that all of us as individuals must either learn to prudent financial managers, or live with insecurity and bankruptcy as a constant threat.
To think that truth doesn't apply to nations.... is ludicrous.

The quote comes from a professor of history at the University of Edinburg, who studied systems of government throughout history to find the relationships between the attitudes of the people and success or failure of their societies.
I can absolutely agree they are true today. I've been bankrupt and crushed by my own financial ignorance, and I've also become wealthy and helped others become millionaires from learning otherwise.
When it's individual, your choices and both fault and consequence belong to you- I have no problem with you living in a tent, that is your right. You don't have the right to expect others to be responsible for your mistakes or shield you from the consequences of your own decisions.

Everybody thinks the rules don't apply to them. We have right now, a huge number of college grads, educated people who think the debt they created to get that education should be cancelled (meaning the taxpayers pay their bill for them) because things didn't work out as they thought. We also have a president telling us it's a good idea for us to pay their bills for them, when the government has to put another band-aid on it's own busted budget every few months, and people's personal budgets are in shambles with exploding prices. This says- they don't see it coming; think the supply of money in the taxpayers pocket is endless, and all theirs. The people they buy votes from with that money- do not care that it's coming from the pockets of other citizens, not from the government.

If we fail to learn from the past, we are destined to repeat it until we do. If you can't consider advice from people who have already been down the path you are on- you deserve the same consequence. However, when you do that in a way that drags others along or causes them harm or loss, you are violating the rights of other people.

Is it too much to ask that you stand on your own feet, pay your own bills in life?

 

Nope. Trump is anything but a gospel savior, but neither is Biden, but Trump pulled most of his shenanigans as a private citizen; Biden has built a family empire as PUBLIC SERVANT creating several millionaires within his family. Beyond that he's the leading Neo-fascist in our country. He's allowed millions of un-vetted, unskilled, illegals into the country. Is attempting to take control of businesses internal operations and wasting billions on wet dream visions of net zero world.

Trumans an a**hole, but accidentally or on purpose he supports the principles the country was founded on.

 

Damn, I think this is the second time this year I've actually agreed with you.

 

I agree on those not voting. Since I first was able to vote in 1968 when one had to be 21, I voted third party 5 times. 2 times in which I really wanted the third party candidate to win, the other 3 times was against both major party candidates. Voting third party was a way for me to offically register my total disdain and vote against both major party candidates. I don’t think those votes were wasted. Those votes also gave me a voice in the down ballot offices which I wouldn’t have had if I stayed home. Voting third party accomplished both missions. My vote was officially registered as being against both along with voting for all the other offices that were on the ballot. I wouldn't change a thing.


There are times when one is so disgusted with the major party’s choices, one doesn’t care which one wins. I wanted to do is do all I could to try to make both lose. So we disagree about those who vote third party. I didn’t care who won in 2016, I voted for Johnson. Not so much for Johnson as against both Trump and Clinton. I figured if there’s enough fools out there to elect either one, then they get what they deserved.

 

He does not.

This country was founded on the idea that the will of the people should determine who are leaders are

The leaders derive their power from the consent of the governed

In 2020 Trump did everything he could to subvert that consent.

 

For many years (1988-2016) I voted third party.

It took the absolute sh*t show of the Trump presidency to show me I now longer had that luxury.

 

What did they accomplish?

That may have been your intention. But in reality it counted for whoever of the two you hated the most.

 

Nonsense. He cut taxes, reduced regulations, lowered unemployment - particularly for POC and women.

 

I think you’re wrong. Neither one increased their vote total by one and neither one decreased their vote total by one. Truth be told, I don’t know which one disgusted me the most. I thought both sucked and that was the way I voted. I didn’t help either major party candidate nor did I hinder either major party candidate. In reality, I would have loved to see Johnson win, he was in my opinion the best candidate running. So, I voted for the best candidate on the ballot. I can’t help it if other viewed the candidates differently. Johnson/Weld , that was a ticket I could support. Neither was an obnoxious, uncouth, rude SOB with childish antics like name calling and throwing temper tantrums along with being a 3rd grade schoolyard bully. Nor were either an aloof, elitist, know it all with a fake smile. Neither far right nor far left. America missed a golden opportunity in 2016. But that was their loss.