Herman Cain Believes That If You're NOT Rich Then It's YOUR FAULT!

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  1. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson New Member

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    His message is the WRONG MESSAGE for the Republican party. If you want to fool people into thinking the Republicans can fix this economy, you don't blatantly say what they actually stand for. You focus on things such as jobs, jobs, jobs. Instead, Cain is focusing on greed, greed, greed.
     
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    The rich get rich off the BOTTOM. And a lot of the money on the bottom is there because of BIG GOVERNMENT. They take a huge percentage off the top and place it in the the MONEY POOL on the bottom. If they didn't do that, the money pool would go dry and everyone, including your family, wouldn't have enough customers to stay in business. If you believe government doesn't play a role in a person's success, then think again.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    well Greg, if it isn't your fault, whose fault is it?
     
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    You don't know how the h*** I am. Did I express any envy toward the wealthy in my post? Do you even know whether I fall into that category? I clearly stated throughout this post that the wealthy rely on the prosperity of the BOTTOM to generate their wealth. That's why so many wealthy people are Democrats. It's in their best interest.
     
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    By the way, if you want a better chance of becoming wealthy yourself then THINK BUSINESS. Startup a local distributorship or something.
     
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    So, more government programs=More rich (well off) people?
     
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    It has everything to do with envy of the rich. The majority of people go do their 40 hours a week for someone else and then are envious of the rich because they aren't rich. They demand government take the money of others who have done what it takes to be wealthy because they are envious.
     
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    Actually, I think you are wrong here. I think the ones putting in the 40 hour weeks may grumble a little, but realize that the "rich" simply found a way to become that way. They are too busy trying to support their families to worry about anything else. The ones calling for the taking of the money from the "rich" are those who think that they are entitled to the money simply because they were born. On a side note, I can't remember the last time I only put in 40 hours in a week. To me, a short week is anything under 65 hours.
     
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    The only hate that is exhibited is from the left towards those they envy, the rich. The right and all the wealthy people I know want as many people as possible to be wealthy and earn lots of money. It amazes the phony argument the left engages in that the people who are rich and own factories and service companies want everyone else to be poor.
     
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    dude. don't get your panties in a bunch. "you" as in the general "you," not you personally.

    so now back to my question that you evaded, whose fault is it??
     
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    And they would rather work their 40 hours a week and not take the risk necessary to become wealthy and then they gripe about it.


    What do you think people who get wealthy are trying to do?

    And it's not even getting "rich", just being upper middle class and living comfortably, if you don't want to do the things necessary to do so don't complain. My wife and I aren't rich by any stretch. But we don't live paycheck to paycheck either, not even close. It's not because we are lucky, or greedy. We save, we spend responsibly, stay out of debt and work very hard to get paid well.

    I lost a job of 26 years two years ago, shopped around and because I had a good reputation as a valuable productive employee was offered a couple of positions and ended up in one that paid me more. That's not meant to be bragging, it's just what happens when you are willing to work for it.

    Most peoples position in life is a direct result of their own choices. Herman Cain is correct.
     
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    oh my god he is talking about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, and we know how much liberals and their voters hate that. well whos fault is it you are not living comfortably? you know you have to work and make money to get the things you want, live on a budget and not spend your paycheck to buy toys.

    i got 2 jobs, live comfortably. if i decided to be a liberal and expect the rich to just give me their money to make my life easier it would be my fault that i couldnt stand on my own.

    oh my god personal responsibility, what a disgusting thing. of course we cant all be rich and own a $1million dollar yacht, but you work hard enough you can live comfortably and without stress. the ones that do have personal responsibility, most of the people who rely on welfare did that on their own as well.
     
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    Yep, they gripe, but they don't go out in the streets and "protest" they simply gripe, get it out of their system, and continue on. I'm not rich either. I'm on my third job in 15 years. the first one one I lost because plants were closed, the second because the boss folded the company.But because i'm a truck driver licensed to haul everything except HAZ-MAT, I was able to find another one that pays more than the last two. And now, this job has given me experience in hauling livestock. A trucker who can haul cattle and pigs will never be without work. When you stop expanding your abilities, you limit your potential. I agree, Cain is right.
     
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    Ridiculous. Money isn't wealth. It is just a medium of exchange. In order to consume, you have to produce, or take it from someone who does. The volume of money in the economy does not reflect or indicate the amount of wealth.
     
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    Cain wants Medicare and Medicaide to be done away with. Bu'bye Herman!
     
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    Actually, if you read what he says. He favors turning the programs over to the states and local government, where it can be more easily managed. The more you get the Federal government out of the loop, the better it is for the people.
     
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    That's conism for you, sub it out to those who can't handle it or will whittle it away to 0. Sound good to you?
     
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    So turning over programs to people who are closer to those who elected them, and better able to respond to their needs is a bad thing to you?
     
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    Great story, you know how it works. And it just amazes me people attack Cain for saying it. He could do so much more for the black community than TEN Obamas. But then you hear so called black leaders like the two dunces Smiley and West on ORielly last and BillO nailed when he in frustration asked "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PERSONALLY ATTACK BLACKS WHO OPPOSE YOU!" They are scared to death of him. I'd like to see Cosby come out and say he supports Cain.
     
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    I think part of the problem is that people are used to politicians spewing nothing but sound bytes and aren't sure how to react to someone who says what he means like Cain does. As for the so-called "black leaders", their only job is to deliver the black vote to Democrats by constantly telling blacks that they are victims. Cain is also correct when he says that the majority of the black population has been brainwashed by the Left. In essence, what he is doing is speaking the truth, and it's disturbing to many. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, I think he has changed the views of many people, and it doesn't bode well for the Left.
     
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    That's not the plan, and you know it.
     
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    Ridiculous? What happens when a "producer" doesn't have enough customers?
     
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    if a producer doesnt have enough customers he should either lower his prices or produce less or produce something else. that's called market selection.
     
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    If you knew anything about marketing, you would know that the price of a product reflects the IMAGE that the producer is trying to create. If you priced a brand name cereal below the price of a generic cereal, you would ruin your brand's image.
     
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    ok, so that still leaves produce less or produce something else.
     

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