High schoolers threaten to sue DeSantis over ban of African American studies course

The great news is that the queer studies has been NUKED from the program! DeSantis WINS!

 

And even if it is all school libraries, people will just go elsewhere and read it. That's what I'd do.

 

Oh, and how exactly are these little kids going to travel around to different libraries?

 

I check books out of several libraries every month without leaving home.
If an old boomer can figure it out, these kids will have done it already.

 

Then literally ANY book should be in school libraries?

 

My thoughts, frivolous lawsuit if it even has any standing.

If someone wants to learn about something DeSantis isn't stopping them. He just doesn't have to give credit to it.

This is the dumbest hill to die on.

 

Show where people aren't allowed to study this outside of school?

 

Actually, the College Board is already revising it to put into Florida. LINK: College Board Pares Back AP African American Studies After DeSantis Complaint—Here’s What’s Removed (forbes.com)

 

Good point!
We should consolidate all of the public libraries and school libraries into one amalgam of literature and textbooks!
Great idea!
Just think of the cost savings!

But the underlying question of “should we let a 14 read de Sade?”; leave it to the Librarians, the ones who went to college to BECOME an expert of “who’s ready for what”?

“What about parental-rights?”

Kid comes home with an inappropriate book?
Forbid they read it, and return it ASAP.
“Problem solved”.

“But what if it keeps happening!?”

Then it should dawn on the parent that they’re not being heard by their children.
They’re certainly not going to get heard by Librarians, (because it’s not the librarians’ business to interfere in how close-minded they want their children to be!)

 

Well SICK pornographic books have made their way into school libraries. Are you suggesting that a librarian in those libraries specifically made a decision to let such books in?

Is that a question that you're asking?

Why are you assuming that parents are guaranteed to see what books their kids have?

 

I suggested that the very people we pay to make these decisions be permitted to make these decisions.
But…
Yes, all books should be allowed to be on the shelves, even ones that we don’t “like”.
“Freedom of speech” also can apply to what speech is available to us as consumers.

This comes off a tad hostile.

Why are you assuming it’s a librarian’s job to parent other people’s children?

 

If you are actually saying that it's okay for pornographic books to be in school libraries where kids can get a hold of them, then you are one SICK FREAK.

It seems that you do not understand the First Amendment.

Asking you if you are asking a question is "hostile?" My goodness, as a 64 year old I would have thought that you have been around for long enough to know a thing or two about what's ACTUALLY "hostile!"

It's not. Parents have a say in their kids' education. And if some SICK FREAK librarian wants to put a pornographic book in the school library, the parents can object to that and demand that the piece of crap is fired, and demand that the books removed. Pretty simple really.

 

Pornographic books targeted to children is grooming. People who participate in the distribution of these pornographic materials are groomers. I find it extremely creepy when adults defend using pornographic books seeking to train children on how to perform sexual acts.

 

If you went to the school playground and handed children graphical pictures designed to train them how to perform sexual acts you would be arrested. So why is a public school doing something that would get a parent arrested if they did it?

 

What do you think a 529 plan is? That is a targeted use account, namely education, higher education, but education none the less.

 

I never said he was stupid, just disagreed with his reasoning. What he is trying to do is teach Black History from a "white person's perspective" and that is not going to work in education. To give you an example, I really love Japanese culture, but no matter what I do or what I wear in traditional Japanese Clothing, there will never come a time that I can fully understand the culture or its history. And I will defer that teaching to someone who is actually Japanese, even if they have lived in America all their lives.

 

But he is not eliminating CRT. He is eliminating what he thinks is CRT even though it is not. Anything that has to do with racism in the past is being eliminated from history, whether it is black, Asian, Native American, or whatever. He only wants to teach the "good" parts of history and totally ignore the "bad parts" of history. And that is not history, that is his story concept, or another common term, whitewashing the history, or trying to teach the myth of history.

I don't believe in teaching only the bad things in history but in a balanced approach. And yes, history does have racism in it from the Holocaust to other things including the numerous lynchings by vigilantes in the South and Midwest that was quite common after the Antebellum period.

 

No, that will not expand his support in the Black Community. It will remain the same. What it will expand is the uneducated lower white class who want to find someone to blame for all their mistakes and misfortunes. Enter the Blacks who have now replaced immigrants.

 

Even after the revision, it still won't pass muster in Florida. DeSantis will find another excuse.

 

I think his mistake is thinking that legislation is the answer to all issues. Sometime persuasion is a better tool.

 

That is the right track, but 529 plans are savings accounts not wealth transfers from government to individual parents and guardians of children.

 

Just a typical democrat.

 

Nevertheless, you could teach Japanese culture using Japanese sources. The color or race of the teacher is irrelevant.
A 10 page workbook with selections from W.E.B. Dubois, Angela Davis, Linda Gordon, Malcom X, Thomas Sowell, Frederick Douglass, MLK would deliver enough culture shock for the average unwoke to deal with and provide a good starter bibliography for anyone interested in a more comprehensive history.

 

It would be wrong, and very stupid for DeSantis to cover-up the history of systemic institutional racism in America.
Please provide a quote from DeSantis stating that this is his intention.

 

All DeSantis has to do to expand his support from black Americans is make sure that the accurate and very well documented ugly history of systemic institutional racism is taught in the schools. Very few black Americans believe that CRT does that.