How is this allowed at a publicly funded School?

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  1. ECA

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    So it’s settled. The claim this was a “black only” event has been debunked. Next?
     
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    They are not gonna ban whites from showing up but this is a graduation ceremony specifically for black students. That's what matters.

    That's segregation.

    Congratulations! You've done it! You've helped blacks rediscover segregation!
     
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    Hahahaha I have? Nice strawman.
     
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    If you support this type of segregation ceremonies based on race, ya. You are part of the problem.
     
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    Today, black Americans face headwinds in education from the time they are born. In fact, we see situations like Florida where even the government purposefully accentuates those headwinds.

    I can easily believe graduation is especially meaningful as an accomplishment.

    Plus, universities across the country support various special interest groups.

    This whole issue is a white nationalist whine.
     
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    It wasn’t segregated. It was open to everyone at the school. Do I have to post the invite showing such for a fourth time?
    If the invite state only those who are black can attend then I would have a real problem with that. Let me state that again for those who are a tad slow….If the invite state only those who are black can attend then I would have a real problem with that. But that wasn’t the case.
     
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    Amen.

    In fact, if they imposed a racial exclusion (or other exclusion, for that matter) it's highly unlikely that they would get university support.
     
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    I will acknowledge that, obviously, my comment was directed at the WHOLE of the Right, not specifically at you. So you are correct, that other posters' past comments, should not be used as a reflection upon your own feelings. Even though I think that in your previous posts, you have confirmed that you do carry certain ideas, about things that a person's skin color can be used to infer, about them-- it hadn't been my intention, to try to block your thread.

    Personally, I don't feel that if blacks want to have a separate ceremony, it is really such a big deal, as some seem to want to make of it. Sure, the ideal is full integration; but we know this is more of a societal aspiration, than yet truly, a realization. I would guess that these students, during their scholastic experience, did not feel, completely taken into the student body & treated as no different from any white student. If they'd made it through the entire experience, sensing that they were regarded as outsiders, and so relying upon each other, for support-- I can understand their wanting to share this accomplishment, specifically with those who they really feel had shared their experience.

    Granted, I am only speculating, as to their motivations. Did the entire minority student population, endorse some statement, of why they had wanted a separate ceremony? If not, I will point out, then so would you, only be speculating, as to their reasons.
     
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  9. ToughTalk

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    What is the purpose of the event? *hint* it's in the title.
     
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    No. They really don't. There is no system or policy specifically designed to hold black people back. As a matter of fact, we've been coddling black people specifically and treating them like victims and lesser for the past half decade at least.

    And that's how we've gotten to segregated events that serve no purpose but to divide society based on race.

    good jeb!
     
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    I agree this is completely stupid. This is not the way forward.
     
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    The more you endorse segregated events based on race, the longer they persist. This particular event sprung up in 2013? So we've rediscovered segregation. We are going backwards.
     
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    And that feeling is only a black thing. :wierdface:

    Ahhhhh, so that's the lefts backdoor to segregation, SPECIAL interest groups, Isn't that interesting! I'm sure the KKK would fall right in line with that sort of reasoning :thumbsup::rock_slayer:
     
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    https://www.aclu.org/know-your-righ...he-basis-of-race-ethnicity-or-national-origin

    "Your rights
    • Federal anti-discrimination laws prohibit discrimination in housing, credit, employment, and “public accommodations” like restaurants, movie theaters, parks, and trains.
    • You cannot be denied a home, a job, or service at a business that is open to the public because of your race, ethnicity, or national origin, and you cannot be charged a different price because of your race, ethnicity, or national origin.
    • The Constitution prevents the government from subjecting you to worse treatment because of your race, ethnicity, or national origin in any situation.
    • State and local laws may also provide protection against discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, or national origin."
    You can't discriminate against any group based on race today. So lol...if you thought you had a point.
     
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    I am trying to speak to ideas, not to particular individuals, here. This reply of yours, for instance, was to my answer to the points which jcarliescu had been trying to make. But I'm sorry if you have taken any of my comments, in which you are not singled out, to have been directed at you, in particular.
     
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    Another aspect of this is that the right wing complaint here is about lack of integrated celebration (though they got that wrong!).

    But, the political movement of the right is toward killing diversity training and teaching seriously ridiculous selections of black history as if they are actual history. Both Trump and DeSantis have worked to make diversity training punishable!

    It appears to me that this thread is no more than an attempt to justify white nationalism - if only they could claim this celebration is exclusive!
     
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    There is school funding, gerrymandering of educational districts, direct law against teaching diversity, institution of crap as if it is black history (such total BS "history" as is in DeSantis' books), and other means.

    Claiming there isn't a specific program to make it harder for blacks is just plain BS.

    There are MULTIPLE such programs. Plus, once the government makes it clear that blacks are second class citizens, white nationalists take over from there throughout private enterprise and public interaction of humans.

    Right wing action shows CLEARLY that the objective of the right wing is to DIVIDE society.
     
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    For students of any kind to attend a graduation ceremony.
     
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    You just failed to READ!!

    Universities do not support interest groups that are racially exclusive.

    They support interest groups of all sorts of interests - some academic (law, history, politics, etc.) some extracurricular (sports, chess, mountaineering, crew, etc.).
     
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    Sure they do :)

    ;)
     
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    Yes, I know. Do you have a point other than to point out the obvious?
     
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    Get a life, dude.

    Yes, universities do stuff for disabled students.
     
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    :)
     
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    No there really isn't. Not being able to teach your bullshit CRT a -theory- isn't a case of a policy or system designed to hold black people back.
     
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    That an event, even one specifically create for black students, can't legally exclude someone based on race. Doesn't mean this isn't an event to segregate black students for graduation ceremonies.

    You think it's ok because the event itself isn't a negative thing. But 4d chess son. Segregation of any kind...even for positive events is still going to lead to negative outcomes in society.
     
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