How is this allowed at a publicly funded School?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    The only thing that matters is if the event excluded anyone…which it didn’t. Lol.
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me that this new generation of blacks is crapping all over what MLK taught us by voluntarily segregating themselves based on skin color.
    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    I'm pretty sure MLK Jr. would agree with you if it were possible.
     
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    It's for black students only.
    Here, read it. I didn't make it up and IMO, you owe the O/P an apology.
    UC Berkeley's Black Graduation: Celebrating community, culture, and achievement | Letters & Science

     
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    Separate but Equal, Again
    Neo-Segregation in American Higher Education
    Dion J. Pierre

    Snip from a long long study/history.
    Focus is on Yale which is well worth the educational read.

    'Neo-Segregation, By the Numbers'


    'Our study examined three universities in depth: Yale and Wesleyan. Originally there were others and we may get back to them. But these three elite private universities in New England provide the granite floor for our conclusions. We know how neo-segregation was born and how it grew at Yale and Wesleyan. Our study, however, also includes data on 173 other four-year colleges and universities across the country. These include public and private institutions, large and small, representing all fifty states.

    What we found was that neo-segregation is widespread if not pervasive. About 46 percent (80 colleges out of 173 surveyed) segregate student orientation programs; 43 percent (75 colleges out of the total) offer segregated residential arrangements; and 72 percent (125 colleges out of the total) segregate graduation ceremonies. Though these arrangements are ostensibly voluntary, students can’t easily opt out.'

    https://www.nas.org/reports/separate-but-equal-again/full-report
     
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    So much for so-called diversity
     
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    Using MAGA, a campaign slogan, as a pejorative is weak soup on the left's part.
     
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    We could cut the IRONY with a dull butter knife. :lol:
     
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    All those MAGA Trump attorneys surely curse the day they met him.
    Trump has given MAGA new meaning.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's like so many other threads in this forum that turn south. You say black, and they'll say white. You say yes, and they say no. You cite facts, and they say nuh-uh.

    No, he is not being disingenuous. Legally, they cannot exclude grads who are not black. You've been told this by a few posters already, but make no mistake about it, UC Berkeley has a Black Graduation meant to celebrate black students.

    From Cal Berkley's website:
    UC Berkeley's Black Graduation: Celebrating community, culture, and achievement


    May 4, 2023
    Michelle Phillips
    UC Berkeley's Black Graduation: Celebrating community, culture, and achievement | Letters & Science
     
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    How juvenile.
     
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    Can you imagine if white students held something like this? White graduation ceremonies? The 'intelligent' women from the View, the MSDNC sycophants would be bitching for weeks, and Biden's proxy would be banging out tweets about RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION AND THOSE EXTREME MAGA REPUBLICANS!
     
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    Have any of them on the left been able to demonstrate even one white student who attended this event? I don't mean in the audience
     
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    The event as described, as it's named is an event specifically for African Americans. Just because they can't legal exclude other races doesn't negate anything. You don't label something "black graduation" on an event meant for everyone because that's not its purpose.

    It's purpose is to segregate black graduates so they can have their own event.

    Lol.
     
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    Are you turning blue yet from holding your breath? ;)

    I suppose they could find a few "token" white people in the crowd. LOL
     
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    "juvenile" because you can't dispute its truth. :roflol:
     
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    Where's all the bitching and complaining from the graduates?
    So far it appears that they're all fine with these segregated ceremonies.


    Report: More universities holding segregated graduation events

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    Monday, April 18, 2022

    'Universities are increasingly offering graduation events focused on participants’ identities and segregated by race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and even income, according to a report by a conservative education publication.

    Campus Reform, which is published by the Leadership Institute in Arlington, Virginia, reported last week that more than three dozen colleges and universities are holding graduation events this summer to recognize groups based on race, gender and sexual orientation.


    Columbia University, Harvard University, Ohio State University, Illinois State University and the University of Texas at Austin are among those offering special ceremonies for Black graduates.

    Yale University, Dartmouth College and the University of Michigan will hold special ceremonies for Asian and American Indian graduates.

    Other schools are hosting special graduations to recognize LGBTQ, first-generation immigrants, women and low-income students.'


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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/18/more-universities-holding-segregated-graduation-ev/
     
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    Yeah, whatever, izzy.
     
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    I doubt you would think segregated graduation ceremonies for whites only are just like mom's apple pie. At least I hope you wouldn't.
    I know I wouldn't. It would truly be disturbing to find out that we haven't learn a damn thing about equality, inclusivity. and the damage coming from racial segregation.
     
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    So your argument, is that there is no need for you to make an argument.

    Right.

    Logical.


    First off, your initial argument had to do with my laughing about the Right wing hypocrisy, I saw, in there being
    1) one thread right now, giving grief to blacks, over there being Affirmative Action, college set-asides for them while,
    2) in this second thread, those blacks-- who, in the opinions of the politically Right respondents of the first thread, shouldn't be in the prestigious college, to begin with-- are once more due criticism, for wanting to have their own graduation ceremony. So apparently, black students don't belong with the smarter, white and Asian kids, except for the graduation ceremony, for which they damn well better share their important accomplishment, with those who had made them feel unwelcome, throughout their college experience.

    If you don't see the ironic humor, don't worry-- many conservatives, constitutionally, seem to lack that ability.


    In reply to my mirth, you had offered this retort:

    jcarlilesiu said: ↑
    Both of those racist issues are not mutually exclusive.

    You('re) trying to justify racism, with more racism.

    While I have already pointed out to you that my post was not "justifying" anything, that idea apparently didn't stick with you, either. Again, the irony you probably can't appreciate, is that it is you, who's using non mutual exclusion, to excuse what appears to be, racially biased criticism, here. That is, if it were the gun club, or the young Republicans, etc., who had wanted their own graduation ceremony, color me skeptical, that there would be this level of outrage.


    Now, though, you seem to be making an argument, against an argument that I hadn't made, certainly not either in what you had quoted me saying, atop your reply--

    DEFinning said: ↑
    I'm not "justifying" anything. I'm doing the same thing as you think you are: pointing to a seemingly racially biased attitude.


    -- nor in any other part of our conversation. Hence, it is clear that you are experiencing some sort of problem with information; not only its processing, but with its arbitrary, mental generation, in that you seem to believe that I have been arguing with you, trying to "justify" the separate ceremony.

    If you now want to switch to that-- from my criticizing the clear unobjectivity of both this, and the other thread-- you should quote my seeming, at least, to make the justification, you are supposedly addressing, with your insubstantial argument. Does that not strike you as fair, that you should quote the argument that you are rebutting? How in God's name, did your brain twist what you'd quoted from me, into my "justifying," the black ceremony?


    As it turns out, however, I have ultimately explained my thinking on this "news story," which-- while my top-line takeaway, is that it doesn't seem important enough, to really warrant a debate thread, IMO-- does also postulate, what could, reasonably, have been mistaken for my attempt at justification. Though this response was to explain to FatBack, that my original post hadn't been intended to focus on him, you could nevertheless quote it, if you wanted to try to refute its point.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...y-funded-school.610735/page-4#post-1074230805


    Of course, if all you are going to offer, is what you already have, quoted at the top of this reply-- there would be no sense in that.
     
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  23. ECA

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    As stated on the invite…

    OPEN TO UNDERGRADUATES AND GRADUATES, AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES MAJORS AND STUDENTS IN ALL OTHER MAJORS AND COLLEGES

    Look, we’re getting nowhere. It’s obvious you need to make this into something it isn’t because of your need to be upset about something. I’ll allow you the last word since we all know you need it. Keep those sheets clean.
     
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    No, I stand by what I said, and nothing in your quote supports your claim.

    And no, I do not need an apology from you. I have thicker skin than you or the OP.

    They probably attended the actual graduation event 4 days prior, but your claim is for you to prove, not for others to disprove. If there were white students who studies African American studies then they probably logged into that virtual graduation ceremony.

    The real question is why you are so offended by them holding an additional on-line ceremony? Why does it make your head explode?

    The white man victimhood complex mandates one to play the victim even then its not the case.
     
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    It takes a regressive mentality to myopically gaze at this event while conveniently forgetting the centuries of inhumane treatment of blacks in America by regressives.
     

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