How is this allowed at a publicly funded School?

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  1. FatBack

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    When only black people are graduating from the ceremony that means it's blacks only.

    That's pretty easy to understand whether you want to argue over the present or the absence of a word as a way to try to deflect away from that
     
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    He was told using the term was racist and he said, "IN TRUTH, THAT WAS PRECISELY THE ROLE THAT THOMAS CHOSE TO CLIMB THE LADDER TO POWER."

    That's calling him an Uncle Tom to gain power. The denial is absurd as are his accusations that other people disparage the successes of minorities.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Where does it say "blacks only" ?


    Maybe you should read it with a more open mind...
     
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    Maybe you should stop trying to make excuses for a segregated graduation event.

    When only black people are graduating from the event that means it's a black only event
     
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    But it's not a segregated event at least according to the link you provided in the OP...

    The Department of African American Studies plans on hosting our annual Black Graduation ceremony, which is open to all majors and degree programs across the campus,” read the announcement.

    The invite (hyperlink in the link in the OP) reads as follows…

    OPEN TO UNDERGRADUATES AND GRADUATES, AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES MAJORS AND STUDENTS IN ALL OTHER MAJORS AND COLLEGES


    Not to mention that one can't just assume that ONLY black people are in the African American Studies majors.
     
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    And amusingly it is called anti-racism. :)
     
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    Just as one cannot assume that black people do not pursue majors other than AAS.

    The event is held by the Dept of African American Studies for black graduates of all majors and degrees. It is a "Black Graduation ceremony". I presume the main difference is the music and catering are different... oh, and no non-black graduates allowed.

    I do notice that the links to the event website and registration page have been taken down. Perhaps someone pointed out the irony to them and they reconsidered.

    UC Berkley: Home of LSD, UNIX, and Black Graduation.... Coincidence?
     
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    The announcement clearly stated the ceremony is open to ALL majors and degree programs across the campus.

    OPEN TO UNDERGRADUATES AND GRADUATES, AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES MAJORS AND STUDENTS IN ALL OTHER MAJORS AND COLLEGES


    Clearly it's NOT just for black people to attend. Again, you mustn't assume all graduates of the African American Studies majors are black. Therefore it can't be just a black only event.

    Oh and....this link shows the invitation is still on the website
    https://africam.berkeley.edu/
     
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    Progressives have progressed society into rediscovering segregation!

    lol.
     
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    The graduation ceremony is obviously open to everyone. The 'black ceremony' is an additional one and is ran virtually 4 days after the main graduation event, and its not "blacks only" thing.

    The OP is just doing is usual race baiting by making it sound like whites can attend the graduation ceremony.
     
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    Only to the illiterate of the world.
     
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    Well let's see.
    https://campusreform.org/article?id=17045
    "The University of California-Berkeley’s African American Studies Department will hold a separate graduation ceremony for its students, in addition to the school's traditional commencement ceremony for all students."

    So why are they holding a separate event specifically for African American students? An event titled "Black graduation"?

    Megan Wang, a sophomore at UC-Berkeley told Campus Reform this decision to hold separate ceremonies is the “21st century equivalent of separate but equal.”
    "She told Campus Reform that it sends the message to students that “their race fundamentally differentiates them from other students.

    There's more!

    "On Tuesday, Campus Reform reported that Columbia University would hold six identity-based commencement ceremonies, including, a “Native Graduation Celebration,” “Lavender Graduation Celebration" for LGBTQ students, “Asian Graduation Celebration,” “First-generation and Low-Income student Graduation Celebration,” “Latinx Graduation Celebration,” and “Black Graduation Celebration.” "

    So this isn't ceremonies open to everyone graduating. It's specific. Segregated by identity. Separate, but equal. Separate.

    segregation
    sĕg″rĭ-gā′shən
    noun
    1. The act or process of segregating or the condition of being segregated.
    2. The policy or practice of separating people of different races, classes, or ethnic groups, as in schools, housing, and public or commercial facilities, especially as a form of discrimination.
    3. The separation of paired alleles or homologous chromosomes, especially during meiosis, so that the members of each pair appear in different gametes.
    It's fairly clear these celebrations are being segregated based on race and sexuality.
     
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    You mean the one that says it’s OPEN TO UNDERGRADUATES AND GRADUATES, AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES MAJORS AND STUDENTS IN ALL OTHER MAJORS AND COLLEGES?

    IMG_0086.jpeg
     
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    Did you read and understand what you posted?

    ""The University of California-Berkeley’s African American Studies Department will hold a separate graduation ceremony for its students, in addition to the school's traditional commencement ceremony for all students.""

    Any student of any background can be of the AA Studies Dept.
     
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    Shhh…this might be too much for some to grasp.
     
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    For some, it's all blacks all the time as a problem to the USA.
    Even when it's not about blacks often times.
     
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    Just what the board needed, another culture war thread.
     
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    Some people constantly need to be outraged at something. Very odd.
     
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    Educational institutions recognize the importance of diversity in their student bodies.

    They work to get international representation, a reasonable balance on race, religion, regions of the USA, wealth, etc.

    I'm well aware that there are white nationalist views opposing education.
     
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    If it weren't for MAGA, we'd have no fun at all.
     
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    Mmhmm


    What's the name of the event and its purpose?
     
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    What does that matter? The claim was they were excluding non blacks. Clearly that isn’t the case. Now, if this was a ceremony excluding anyone who isn’t black then I would have issue with that. But again, that isn’t the case.
     
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    I make no such assumptions.

    But, my mistake, the registration link is no longer available (nor is the website linked in the article from the OP), presumably because the event has already happened.

    Here is the link to the actual event, in its entirety. I did not comb through every second to try to find a non-black person getting a diploma there, but I did not see one skimming through the procession part at 2x speed.



    This, of course, does not mean that white folks were not welcome at the event; there were some on stage, and in the audience. See if you can spot one amongst the graduating class. It could be it was open to them, just none opted to participate. It was a "Black Graduation ceremony", after all. Would be presumptuous and provocative for a non-black to want to take part, I would think.

    As a side note, watching the opening African drum and dance exhibition at 2x speed is hilarious.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Where does it say "blacks only" ?


    Maybe you should read it with a more open mind...


    Nope...it's open to lotsa people even you....why don't you go and find out ??? ;)


    Where does it say "blacks only" ?


    Maybe you should read it with a more open mind...
     
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    https://www.merca20.com/uc-berkeleys-black-only-graduation-ceremony-sparks-debate/

    Based on the title of the event. Videos of past graduates who have attended the event. The purpose of the event and its description...only a dumb ass progressives would call this event "inclusive."

    It has a purpose. That purpose is in the damn title of the event.

    If you need explanation as to if this is segregation and offensive...so only replace the word black with white...then let me know how that sits with you.

    Lol. "Progressives".... There isn't a society they haven't ****ed up. Their record is flawless.
     
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