First revolver. I've had many semi-autos for decades. I bought this one private party at a gun show. I paid $850 and it came with 200 rds of .38. I polished it up and bought some rosewood grips.
that's as realistic as saying because in one case, a type of cancer went away without medical intervention, no one with cancer needs surgery or chemotherapy
That's one of the sillier responses I've seen in a while. Brian Kemsley is a professional MMA fighter who just happened to be there. If mom & her baby had been alone, what then? Would you rather me & my dad had been unarmed during the incidents in the post I tagged you in?
I "bought" a Glock 17 from a deceased debtor's estate and also an AK47 from a Soviet soldier (in the year 1990) for 16 bottles of liquor. I like firearms a lot, but I'd never shoot people with it. Thanks God I'm not an Ukrainian Soldier required to kill as many RuZZkie aZZholes as possible.
I have a couple of .22’s - one a Model 52D target rifle. A .38 police special. Sweet shooter. An Antlered Game collector deer rifle I bought during a close out. A few shotguns, a 30-06 Garand deer rifle. A .45 Army pistol with a spoils of war pedigree I’d prefer not to share. A Sheridan pellet rifle for suicidal pigeons. Two pumps and they can still fly away and fatten up someones cat. I broke the .45 down into parts along with some gold jewelry I bought with MPC’s and shipped home in an Akai amplifier. Heh, heh, heh… 3” mag 12 ga pump. 20 ga pump. And a couple others.
My request was: "Please name one other weapon, skill or item that can be used to deter multiple attackers who are armed." Please note that I said: "... multiple attackers who are armed." Anyway, I'm about 6' 2" and 260 pounds and used to wrestle and box, heavyweight, so I've been able to handle most altercations without a firearm. I've already described at least 3 instances in my life during which only a firearm was going to save my life. In all 3 instances, there were multiple assailants and they were all armed with guns and / or knives. If I would have tried any silly Kung Fu stuff, I would have either been shot, stabbed and / or beaten to death. Finally, what advice do you have for a small woman who works late and is confronted by multiple, armed criminals? I agree that one should do everything possible to defuse altercations and deadly force should be the very last resort but if the Rights guaranteed under the 2nd Amendment only save your life once, they have proven their worth. Thanks,
Your idea of a debate starts off with what is called a false dilemma fallacy. So aside from protection against liberal enabled crime, the benefit of the 2nd Amendment is not to repel a modern Army invading the US. Rather, the value of the 2nd Amendment is explained by the following quote. A quote from a book that not too many modern day liberals have read, would want to read, or would understand if they read it. “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
The force is directed straight back into your shoulder instead of 'up.' The recoil isn't reduced at all, but its absoarbed entirely into your shoulder instead of primarily into your wrist. The one drawback is the mechanical complexity of the inner workings, especially the safety. In theory, its not as 'simple' as a standard revolver- there's more things that could go wrong and cause it to not fire. That's only theoretical though. My Rhino has never not fired, nor have I heard of one not firing. It will still never misfire due to 'wrong charge' like an auto can, but it might in theory jam up in the safety. In theory. Mine operated a little clunky out of the box due to a burr that was left unsmoothed on the catch notches at each corner of the cylinder. I filed them lightly and re-blued, and everything has been smooth running since then. My only beef with it is its not available in stainless. I miss having my SP101, but I don't miss shooting it.
I am not going to itemize my firearms on this forum, but a Ruger Security Six .357 was the first revolver I ever bought and I am still shooting it almost 50 years later. My understanding is the GP-100 added a crane lock to the Security 6, so it should be able to handle really hot loads. Can't go wrong with a Ruger IMHO. My last revolver purchase and frequent carry gun is a S&W 340 PD .357 -- but carried with .38 special only. At about 11 oz this gun has a pretty stiff recoil with .38 loads. It was not cheap many years ago and now they cost about $1200.
Ruger makes good guns, no doubt. I have a problem with their politics. Specifically- their support of the attempted 2012 AWB, which would have made illegal every semi-auto rifle EXCEPT their mini-14. They have undergone a change of leadership since then, but still, bad taste. I'll buy Rugers, but only used. Ruger gets none of my money.
It appears we may be of a similar mindset. The Ruger LCR .357 is one of my more recent purchases, and has become my most frequent CCW. 17 ounces, I load mine with hot +Ps. The Houge grip, & use of polymer in the frame makes the recoil very manageable with the loads I use. I consistently get right around 1000 fps at typical self defense ranges - well above the hollow point expansion threshold for those rounds. $535 a couple years ago.
A great carry gun that can be concealed in a jacket pocket if need be and pointed wherever you need to point it and no one is the wiser. Unless of course you are forced to pull the trigger and then The jig is up. Of course such a thing should never be done except in cases of legitimate self-defense.
Ok.......and it still doesn't make the claim true. No one is going to invade the US, and its not because people have 20 guns in their basements.
I understand that he recoil with a Rhino is not reduced but at a lower point since it fires from the lower part of the cylinder as opposed to most revolvers that fire from the top part of the cylinder. I suppose that I've just gotten used to the little Charter Arms .44 because I've had it since 1977 and taken it from NYC to Florida. I've run ever type of ammunition from it from home loads to hot loads to factory loads and it's never failed to fire. I like large revolvers and one of my favorite is an older S&W Mod. 25 - 5 in .45 Colt (aka .45 Long Colt). I paid about $200- for it and it already had Tritium sights. It was initially issued to one of the Texas Rangers and, with the right load. is extremely accurate. Thanks,
This is good "big revolver", especially if you live in bear country Taurus "Raging Hunter" 454 Casull
What is certainly true is you would have a much more difficult time invading a nation with 400 million or so privately owned guns versus invading a nation where the citizenry were largely disarmed. That's just common sense. Look at Ukraine. One of the first things that happened was they started passing out guns to citizens. I wonder why they would do that?
In our case it doesn't make any difference since a foreign invasion force would never reach our shores. We spend big on military for a reason. Or we could stop the spending and rely on armed civilians hiding behind blades of grass.
I’m not gonna make a giant list, but some notables are one of my G26 daily carry guns with lone wolf trigger set up, Vickers Tactical slide and mag release, SLR ext mag, and Trijicon ambient light red dot. It’s big brother is a G19 with the same adds, but an under mount o-light and threaded barrel to host the Silencerco, and comp to keep the threaded barrel safe when not hosting. Costly guns are useless if you don’t train.
I'd argue that's true of most any gun. A coworker, who isn't terribly familiar with handguns, was thinking of getting a self defense handgun for his wife & thought an LCR like might be a good choice (his wife has never fired a gun). I argued against it & suggested that a semi-auto would be a better choice. I think the recoil out of a snubby like mine will make a lot of women gun shy (pun intended). My wife carries a Glock, and doesn't like shooting my LCR at all. I think it would probably take an inexperienced shooter longer to become proficient with my LCR than with something like my wife's Glock, even though the LCR is arguably simpler to use. Just my opinion, your milage may vary.
Alec Baldwin just killed someone with a replica Colt .45 revolver, so we know it'll get the job done.
Makes a lot of sense. I’m a total glock slut since my requirements for a defense gun be top notch in every way. I bought my gf a G43 and did all the right things to it, a woman with smaller hands can enjoy it more than a wheel gun. None of them are gonna want a GP100, but that’s what I went through the academy with and love everything about it! Dealers choice.
