How many Jews died in the gas chambers?

In a video I saw a few years ago David Irving said that each member of the Einsatzgruppen killed about ten people per day on average. He said it was an anti-partisan action. I can't find the video but here's some alternative info on the Einsatzgruppen.

https://art-butz.historiography-project.com/book/06-et-cetera#The_Einsatzgruppen_
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The remaining part of the extermination legend is that the Einsatzgruppen exterminated Russian Jews in gasmobiles and by mass shootings. This is the only part of the legend which contains a particle of truth.

At the time of the German invasion of Russia in June 1941, there was a Führer order declaring, in anticipation of an identical Soviet policy, that the war with Russia was not to be fought on the basis of the traditional rules of warfare. Necessary measures were to be taken to counter partisan activity, and Himmler was given the power to act independently upon his own responsibility. Everybody knew that meant executions of partisans and persons collaborating with partisans. The dirty task was assigned to four Einsatzgruppen of the SD, which had a total strength of about 3,000 men (i.e. of the order of 500 to 1,000 men per group). Knowledgeable authorities, incidentally, have accepted that such anti-partisan operations were necessary in the Russian theater, where the enemy had no regard for the rules.[41]

We have had occasion to note in several instances that Jews did, in fact, pose a security menace to the German rear in the war. The Red Cross excerpt makes this quite clear. The task of the Einsatzgruppen was to deal with such dangers by all necessary means, so we need not be told much more to surmise that the Einsatzgruppen must have shot many Jews, although we do not know whether many means 5,000, 25,000 or 100,000. Naturally, many non-Jews were also executed.
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Here's some background info (bottom link).
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jews-started-ww2.155612/page-3#post-1074892409


More info here...
https://www.bing.com/search?cp=1252...ruppen&q1=site:www.historiography-project.com
https://www.historiography-project.com/search.php#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Einsatzgruppen&gsc.sort=

 

Eisenhower is of german descent. The nazis kept meticulous records of the amount of people they killed. They obviously didn't record themselves incenerating people because they aren't that stupid. Cruel but not mindbogglingly stupid enough to record crimes that heinous.

I love how you spin the poor German soldiers as the true victims of WW2. Were they victims (yes imo victims of a dream sold to them by a madman. victims of hatred stirred, etc.) however the true victims were the innocent civilians butchered en mass whom were largely Jewish.

 

Here are a couple of Hitler's speeches.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-17#post-1074283687

He told the German people and soldiers that they were the good guys. I think in most wars the soldiers on both sides believe they're the good guys. At least one side has been lied to. That's probably the main reason why American soldiers were told not to fraternize with prisoners of war.

 

Its well known that ther German propaganda mingled "Jew" and "partisan" and used the terms interchangeably. Nevertheless they prosecuted Jews independent from the question if they were involved into partisan activity or not. I dont know whether the numbers you present are correct or not, but if I once take them as given, 3000 men killing about 10 people a day on average makes about 30 000 a day. Thats roughly 10 million per year, tbh, the numbers seem quite high.

It is beyond any reasonable doubt that they committed countless atrocities against non-Jews as well, which doesnt refute that they hunted down Jews and executed them.

 

It's also "well known" that there were gassings.


It's all second-hand info but here's some.

https://www.historiography-project.com/books/19880000-the-false-news-trial/20weber.php
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Weber testified that he had studied the Einsatzgruppen reports carefully after reading Raul Hilberg’s standard work, The Destruction of the European Jews, and realized the importance which Hilberg ascribed to these reports. Weber quickly found that Hilberg, like most of the Holocaust historians, had extracted from these reports very selectively those portions which they could use to substantiate their theses. (23-5685) In Weber’s opinion, the Einsatzgruppen reports, viewed as a whole and taken into context, did not substantiate the extermination story. There were several reasons for this: firstly, the reports showed that there was no German policy to exterminate the Jews of Russia as Jews. While the reports showed large numbers of Jews were shot by German security forces, the reports also made it clear that these shootings were carried out for specific security reasons or in reprisals or for other specific reasons, not simply because these people were Jews. Secondly, the reports themselves grossly exaggerated, sometimes by as much as ten times, the number of Jews allegedly killed. These exaggerations, said Weber, were akin to the gross exaggerations during the Vietnam War by the U.S. government of the daily body count of Vietcong dead. Said Weber, “During the Vietnam War, there was repeatedly on television, night after night, wildly exaggerated stories or figures of Vietcong that were dead.” (23-5686)
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I don't see how we can ever be one hundred percent sure about why and how many Jews were killed during the Russian campaign. Some people just conclude what they want to be true.

 

Technically I cannot be sure that there was ever a Roman Empire, a Great War in Germany or an old ancient Egyptian Culture. The point here is, the orders and attitude of the Nazi leadership is known to historians and it adds up roughly about with demographics. If a regime experiments with special trucks to gas people, later on order stationary huge gas chambers to be build, they would be utterly stupid to have all these efforts and costs for 5 people they wanna gas. They experimented with that to spare ammunition, because they feared that even the soldiers of the Einsatzgruppen could collapse under the atrocities they commit.

If it was for a dozen of people to gas, they would have been utterly stupid to go to that length for that. The same goes for the maintenance of squads like the Einsatzgruppen, when you are at war and need every soldier.

All the excuses dont make any sense. If the Soviets forged gas chambers for their propaganda, it will not surprise me. They have lied, committed all kinds of atrocities and their regime at this time wasnt hardly any better. If there are specific eye witnesses you may doubt, for sure, there are all kind of liars. Anyway, there is an overall picture which adds up and there is an overall picture which doesnt make sense. Turning down the Holocaust as a lie doesnt make any sense. Soviets putting up a fake show, propaganda lies on the other side, some singular cases of witnesses who wanted to have their 5 minutes of fame and faking stories, can't change the big picture of a regime which was hateful of Jews beyond any limits, orachastrated boycots and pogroms and - when the war started and had to take less care of the opinion of its own population as well as the international community - ordered the annihilation of the Jews. Although the Wannsee protocols are not 100% specific, with the history of the regime, it adds up to a coherent bigger picture.

 

The revisionist version makes perfect sense to me. Check out this video.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...leted-what-crap.337714/page-2#post-1075105207

 

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“God, I hate the Germans...”
— Dwight D. Eisenhower
https://quotefancy.com/quote/796826/Dwight-D-Eisenhower-God-I-hate-the-Germans

As you can see, Eisenhower's, background means nothing but his Starvation Order(1) in his real death camps killed hundreds of thousands of German POWs and civilians (2)

Next, you contradict yourself with:
1.

2.

Yes, the Germans kept accurate records but they are not helpful when they are censored, repressed and grossly inflated by the victors.

For example, The Red Cross and the East German Government concluded that: "...the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc." (3)

Next, you act as if cremation is some horrible and sadistic crime but cremation is not only commonplace but the most effective way to save lives where the threat of typhus etc is greatest.

The Germans were well aware that the intent of these crematoria would be demonized by Allied propagandists to deceive the gullible:

"In order to put a stop to the epidemics, we were forced to burn the bodies of incalculable numbers of people who had been destroyed by disease. We were therefore forced to build crematoria, and on this account they are knotting a noose for us."

Heinrich Himmler
21 April 1945

Gerald Reitlinger, The Final Solution, 2nd ed., Vallentine, Mitchell, London, 1968, p. 521. AlsoMoment (Jewish monthly published in Boston), vol. 11, no. 1, Dec. 1985, p. 51.

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As an American combat Veteran of a very different war, I can empathize with all who are sent by their government into the madness that is war but I do not remember declaring German soldiers to be the "...true victims WW 2."
During the course of my life, I've known, worked and lived with German WW 2 Veterans and don't recall their being any more demonic than many American G.I.s I have known.

I think that any objective Veteran with even a cursory knowledge of WW 2 or any war must have some respect for the tenacity of any soldier who fights on against overwhelmingly superior numbers (4) and only rubble for a home.

Finally, even a cursory understanding of the WW 2 era reveals that Hitler was neither a "madman" nor did Jews suffer in greater numbers than anyone else but those topics are beyond the scope of this thread.

Please remember who writes the history; in other words:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell
https://www.forbes.com/quotes/3552/...the future; who,the present controls the past.

Thanks,







(1). "Eisenhower's Starvation Order"
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/ike.htm

EXCERPT "Copies of the orders were discovered recently in several villages near the Rhine ... The message [which Bacque reproduces] reads in part: "... under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to the prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot...." CONTINUED



(2). “Buried Alive Screaming In The Night: German POW Survivors Describe Eisenhower’s Extermination Camps After WWII Had Ended”
https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018...ers-extermination-camps-after-wwii-had-ended/

EXCERPTS “This is one of a series of published and planned articles detailing aspects of the Western Allies deliberate intention to murder approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of unnecessary starvation, exposure, and illness.

“The Western Allies deliberately murdered approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of starvation, exposure, and illness. This Allied atrocity was first publicly exposed in 1989 in the book Other Losses by James Bacque. Bacque estimates in Other Losses that the victims undoubtedly number over 790,000, almost certainly over 900,000, and quite likely over a million.

The prisoners’ deaths were knowingly caused by army officers who had sufficient resources to keep these prisoners alive. Relief organizations such as the Red Cross that attempted to help prisoners in the American camps were refused permission by the army. “CONTINUED


(3) "INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS"
https://archive.org/details/auschwitz_201905

EXCERPTS:

"OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS RECORDS RELEASED

Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301

For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.”

Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed.

Red Cross and East German government figures put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc. The 6 Million figure is a Kabbalist number, a magickal figure which featured in news papers in the early 1900’s." CONTINUED


(4). “Their Wehrmacht Was Better Than Our Army”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...ur-army/0b2cfe73-68f4-4bc3-a62d-7626f6382dbd/

EXCERPT ”On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50 percent higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances (emphasis in original). This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost." CONTINUED

 

Okay first of all. I did not contradict myself. They kept written logs. Very different than video taping yourself incinerating people. The idea that the Holocaust victims are making it up for clout is absurd. Most people do not give a **** about the Holocaust. Hell I went to school with a kid who apparently asked a survivor how big the ovens were at an assembly (could have been gossip idk I wasn't at that assembly).

Most people don't care about stuff unless it affects them. Now lets get on to your obnoxiously syntaxes points.

1) Eisenhower's starvation order and cruelty towards Germans does not negate the much worse evil of brutally dismembering and subjecting an entire people to attempted annihilation.

2)See above

3) First of all, 271 thousand is a lot of people. Even if they fabricated the 6 million figure it would show unmatched barbarity in the means in which the civilians were butchered. The fact is that most historians cite the 6 million figure and that is the one I believe

4) I do not know what point you are trying to make? The german army was more efficient at war/killing people... If so that is hardly a prize to be proud of as war is evil.


Also I feel I need to reiterate the point that we were not the good guys in the war. We were just the lesser of two evils. I could go on lengthy posts why but you will just cherry pick what I say and run intellectual circles around me. I am not that smart. I am an average man but the facts are on my side sooooo yeah. Keep minimizing the Holocaust and as they say you will reap what you sow. You will be viewed as repulsive and ridiculed for your obfuscation of historical facts.

 

... was at least exaggerated by James Bacques.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bacque

There were without a doubt war crimes committed on German POW and civilians, however it was mainly the Soviet Union you could accuse of systematic atrocities which killed millions, committing also millions of rapes. There has been atrocities of the Western Allies too, however not even close to the extend the Soviet Union committed them.


...

Its no coincidence that it turns out in that constellation, but its worth mentioning that Germany started this war. Even when it comes to the Soviet Union and all the evil this Union brought over Europe, which cooperated with Hitler until 1941, committing genocide in Poland, leading an unjustified war of aggression against Finland, the war against Germany was forced onto them.

 

Check out this video.

Merchants of the Myth
https://archive.org/details/youtube-R7aPNW8LqTs

 

I have no beef with the German people. The nazis were more anti German than anything. Nazis viewed British/Nordic peoples as superior to their own people anyways. If anything I should love the Nazis since they would consider me master race lmao (well I am not that white but I have blonde hair and blue eyes and am primarily of British genes the area they consider superior)... Too bad I have a good moral structure developed and can recognize evil.

 

If the facts were on your side then you would be able to support your silly and easily debunked fables with credible sources.

For example:

(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED



(3). "Holocaust `memoir' is a fraud"
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/holocaust-memoir-is-a-fraud-1.238917



(4). “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

EXCERPTS:

• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen


• William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years


• Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis


• Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses


• Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated


• Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED

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Feel free to believe whatever "Holo-rubbish" that the Holocaust industry pours into your head but I've just proven that you know nothing about the topic at hand.

Stick with your argument that:

and stock up on more "human fat soap", "human skin lampshades" and shrunken heads.

 

You believe 10,000,000 Jews died in the gas chambers but only 6,000,000 died in WWII?

Hmm . . . .

Math . . .

 

At no point has this happened on this thread. Libeling others on this thread shows you likely have no redeeming points.

People building an industry around the holocaust is a well-documented fact.

Amazon.com: The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering (Audible Audio Edition): Norman G. Finkelstein, Barry Abrams, Tantor Audio: Audible Books & Originals

I personally haven't seen any . . . no one here has provided any.

In fact, 95.5% of people voting here deny the official record of the Holocaust.

In fact, you deny the official version of the Holocaust. Will you explain what you believe?

Thank you for explaining your gameplan @Death.

So, according to you asking questions is hateful. This is a very anti-American belief. Why do you hate America?

This isn't true. And to be Honest, I've actually read the official version of the Holocaust yet, for some reason you vehemently disagree with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's narrative. Don't you want to get with them and get your facts straight first?

You said what you write is drivel - not me.

He was tortured - well known fact. Statements made under torture and threat of torture cannot be relied upon.

To the contrary, the company's evidence shows that Zyclon B was not used to kill people during WWII.

You're more than welcome to present evidence from guards and prisoners.

Notes found in a bottle in 1980.

Unfortunately, much of what the notes say are simply impossible. Among the highlights:

1. 3,000 people in a room measuring 210 square meters.
2. Self-immolating bodies.
3. Only 1.5 pounds of ash per body. (Ash would be about 5% of body weight.)

Like @Death, the notes also disagree with the official Holocaust Narrative.

None of these links shows the blueprints of gas chambers.

There were gas chambers of course - they were used to decontaminate clothing.

 

No. Do your own research. I'm tired of placating flat earthers and other denialists. You can't produce any evidence of your own, so you resort to copy/pasting propaganda and demanding others address it. I call bull ****.

 

Great! I can put you down for not knowing anything about the Holocaust.

 

Maybe they emigrated. Maybe they didn't want to be known as Jews anymore.

 

The concentration camps definitely had gas chambers used to decontaminate clothing.

Why do you deny the existence of any gas chambers?

 

Leaders Of One Of The Largest No-Fault Insurance Frauds In New York History Sentenced To 15, 12, And Seven Years In Prison
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...e-frauds-new-york-history-sentenced-15-12-and

Duke lacrosse team suspended following sexual assault allegations
https://www.history.com/this-day-in...uspended-following-sexual-assault-allegations

There are plenty of fraudulent claims about rape or car insurance, but does that mean rape or car insurance doesn’t exist?

One could certainly find examples of fabricated stories about slavery, the Civil War, the Vietnam War, or communism. However, the question arises: why do some people focus almost exclusively on denying the Holocaust, often citing sources widely considered pro-Nazi and antisemitic?

I classify such individuals into two categories:

1. Those who harbor hatred for Jews or an admiration for Nazi Germany. These individuals create websites and other content filled with misinformation, targeting poorly educated and gullible audiences who may then disseminate these falsehoods as if they were gospel truth.
2. Those who are poorly educated and gullible themselves. These individuals uncritically accept and spread this gospel, failing to verify evidence or apply logical reasoning.

 

I'd love to have a debate with you over this issue and put my education up against yours. I suspect I would win

 

It reminds the answer of my Israeli friend:
For sure IDF killed some people in Gaza, but the majority were Hamas members or civilian which Hamas killed or prevented to leave areas IDF warned it will bomb.

Do you dent that IDF killed Hamas terrorists?
Do you deny that Hamas killed or prevented civilians to leave areas IDF warned it will bomb?

 

"OH NO, NOT "ZIONO-PEDIA" AGAIN."

As I wrote earlier, It seems like you must regurgitate Allied WW 2 propaganda and evading facts about Eisenhower's Starvation Order because you'll get locked up for telling the truth about the Holocaust in about 13 "democracies".

Re:

I'd think that you would know by now that as long as the victors write the history books it will always be the "other" side that "started" the war.
James Bacque was the one who did the research and helped expose Eisenhower's Starvation Order, not the Zionist editors that manipulate Wikipedia's content. (1)

- "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)”
https://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/2413682.html?utm_source=embed_post

- "Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to." (Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly as reported in the Daily Mail, August 6th, 1939)
https://www.wattpad.com/36665741-the-hidden-truth-truth-about-ww2

- "Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon."
- Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").

Finally, Germany appealed to the League of Nation to stop the massacres of ethnic Germans by the Poles and NVKD Bolshevik Jews but the League of Nations did nothing after dozens of appeals.(2)

Because of the draconian censorship laws imposed by the International Holocaust Industry, Zionist lobbies and pro Israel MSM, I can never be sure if someone is simply parroting the standard Holocaust narrative because they're afraid they'll be locked up for "Holocaust denial" (whatever that is) or they have been hoodwinked into believing some of the most outrageous fables ever imagined.


Thanks,




(1). "Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

EXCERPT "Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in "Zionist editing" for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site."CONTINUED


(2). "The 1939 Danzig Massacres of ethnic Germans which caused Hitler to invade Poland"
http://fr.soc.histoire.narkive.com/...-germans-which-caused-hitler-to-invade-poland

The 1939 Danzig Massacres

EXCERPT "In the months leading up to the German invasion the Polish Army and independent Bolshevik units had been slaughtering German nationals in the Danzig corridor. Mass killings of thousands of civilian ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) by both civilian and Russian NDVK Jews, who were confident that Poland would quickly defeat Germany.
Many apparently expected to take possession of German farms and businesses.

An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres carried out prior to the 1939 invasion. Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to the close of WW I.

-- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the German invasion of Poland.
Germany had protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally dozens of times with no results." CONTINUED

 

trying to justify the Nazi holocaust is just plain sick

 

I have another example of "ZIONO-PEDIA" conspiracy!

- "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)”
https://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/2413682.html?utm_source=embed_post

me: did Winston Churchill said: "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not."

chatGPT AI: No, there is no credible evidence that Winston Churchill ever said or wrote the phrase, "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." This quote is often attributed to Churchill in conspiracy theories or misrepresented historical narratives, but it lacks any reliable documentation in his speeches, writings, or biographies.
Churchill was a vocal critic of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime, and he strongly advocated for standing against their aggression. However, his stance was defensive and focused on countering Nazi expansion rather than forcing a war upon Germany.
If you're interested, I can help locate sources to confirm Churchill's documented statements.

Gemini AI: There is no evidence that Winston Churchill ever said "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." This quote is often attributed to him, but it has not been found in any of his speeches, writings, or recorded conversations.
Some sources suggest that the quote may have originated with Pat Buchanan, a conservative commentator, in his book "The Unnecessary War." However, even Buchanan has not provided any evidence to support the claim that Churchill actually said these words.

It is important to note that Churchill was a strong opponent of appeasement and believed that it was necessary to stand up to Hitler and the Nazi regime.

Mistral AI: No, Winston Churchill did not say, "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." This quote is often misattributed to him, but there is no reliable source or historical record that confirms he made this statement. Churchill was a prominent figure during World War II and is known for many famous speeches and quotes, but this particular phrase is not among them.
Perplexity AI: There is no credible evidence that Winston Churchill ever said "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." This quote appears to be fabricated and is often circulated by conspiracy theorists and historical revisionists Reputable Churchill scholars and historians have thoroughly examined Churchill's extensive writings, speeches, and broadcasts, which comprise over 20 million published words, and have found no record of this statement. Richard Langworth, a prominent Churchill historian, explicitly states that this quote is "simply not among his 20 million published words". The origin of this misattribution is unclear, but it seems to have gained traction on various online forums and conspiracy-oriented websites. These types of fabricated quotes are often used to push revisionist narratives about the causes and nature of World War II. It's important to note that Churchill was indeed a vocal critic of Nazi Germany and advocated for a strong stance against Hitler's aggression. However, there is no evidence to suggest he sought to provoke or force a war. Churchill's actual statements and actions during the 1930s were focused on warning about the growing threat of Nazi Germany and advocating for British rearmament and preparedness. When evaluating historical quotes, especially those related to controversial topics, it's crucial to rely on reputable sources and verified historical records rather than unsourced claims circulating on the internet.

All intelligent people know that "ZIONO-PEDIA" and "ZIONO-AI-PEDIA" are spreading lies for gullible, poorly educated people, please write more to spread the gospel of truth to intelligent, well educated people!