How Talk Radio and Fox News Brainwashed My Dad

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    Kinda like NBC News and the NYT brainwashed you?
     
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    If just 1% of the Locked in Step.....Ultra-Right....Ultra-Left Wing Thinking....Always quick to B!#$% about the other side of an ISSUE....thinks either side is Represented and Supported by SATAN HIMSELF.....believes their Party is all a part of GOD'S PLAN.....or think's anyone who might have or follow a Religion is a COMPLETE MORON....either thinks supporting Union style Employees or supporting Businesses is akin to killing Puppies or Kittens.....either want's to control every aspect of what goes on in a Bedroom or control a persons sexuality or wants to no restraints upon Abortion at any stage of development even in the event it is the last week of the 9th month and both mother and fetus are healthy.....or want's to force a Pregnant 13 year old to carry to full term a fetus existing as a few hundred cells due to a RAPE or INCEST because this poor kid's crazy ass Mom and Dad are so indoctrinated into their Religious Dogma that they locked the kid in her room after they picked her up at the Hospital where she was brought to by the Police who found her bloody, beaten and raped.....so being locked in her room this poor kid was not able to go to a Drug Store and buy Morning After or Plan B which would after taking the pill not allow a Human Egg to implant itself in the child's Uterine Wall thus preventing Pregnancy....so what could have been the simple taking of a PILL.....has now turned into a CLUMP OF CELLS in the very early stages....and as the weeks pass the WACKO'S who have some how found out about this from both sides start growing in numbers outside this poor kids house as her CRAZY PARENTS keep her locked in her room all the while this Fetus Grows....and one side is screaming and carrying signs saying....IT'S A CHILD NOT A CHOICE!......then after too much time passes and we are in the last week of Pregnancy the other side is now carrying signs saying.....IT'S A WOMAN'S BODY AND A WOMAN'S CHOICE.....as what at one time could have been a PILL TAKEN and a NEVER BEEN.....has become due to some CRAZY RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS....an almost fully developed child ready to be born and at this point A WOMAN'S CHOICE SIGNS....just won't cut it.....

    .......all the while the whole country is going to HELL because FANATICS FROM BOTH SIDES have made very obvious and very easily answered questions.....that the VAST MAJORITY OF MODERATE AMERICAN'S KNOW WHAT THE PROPER SOLUTION IS TO......these Fringe Maniac Fanatics have bogged down the whole system of Government with Flash Point Issues and other associated MORAL AND SOCIAL BULL S#!%.....so I have figured out what to do.

    Let's take every person who A MONKEY WITH A BUTTON considers an Ultra RIGHT OR LEFT WING supporter as we will train this Monkey to push this button when the Monkey sees a Human Being's MOUTH flapping far too often in a 2 minute span......and when the Monkey pushes this button that specific person will dropped into a small Rocket which in turn will be launched right into the Heart of our Sun.

    AboveAlpha

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    By the way....if just 1% of these people actually tried to SOLVE our problems rather than spend all their time complaining about other people....we would no longer have problems.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The Liberals Also Attempted to Brainwash their Listeners to Support Obama escalating the wars Afganistan and Pakistan

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    "How disgusting. Code Pink supports the mass murder of Afghans. Murder is apparently fine with Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin if it results in women’s rights."

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    Soros funded protest groups with controlled positions ???

    "But here’s what Tencer, Benjamin, and corporate media are not telling you — the Taliban was created by Pakistan’s ISI and the CIA ..." (with your tax dollars funding both Al Queda and Taliban before and after 9/11)

    » Code Pink Supports the Mass Murder of Afghans Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


    "Nearly 600 U.S. servicemen, about 20 per day on average, have been wounded every month since May 2010. This is the painful reality of the fraudulent war in Afghanistan that the Obama administration has been hiding. "

    Christopher Bollyn



    Following in the footsteps of other Foundation controlled "Progressives," Code Pink has changed its position on Afghanistan, (and by extension Pakistan) in her role as an "anti-war" leader when Obomber took office. Like her contemporaries in the Ford Foundation funded Progressive media who went out of their way to attack activists for their desire to protest against invading Iraq, (David Corn of the Nation mag), or activists speaking out obout 9/11 Truth, the JFK Assassination, (Howard Zinn, Alex Cockburn, Chomsky) and other Ford Foundation "activists"/"authors" who still LIE on a continual basis about the facts surrounding Obama wars in Libya, Syria, the Arab Spring regime changes by the State Dept. and the CIA, (notably Amy Goodman, Pacifica Radio, Chomsky, Juan Cole) by media icons who have consulted with CIA, or are funded by intelligence fronts like MIT, and Ford, find themselves increasingly under the microscope for their inconsistently formulated views on Middle East wars as a controlled asset would, (but consistently are timed along with policy escalations by the Presidents) to fit the predetermined narratives of their New World Order/ War Machine financiers and profiteers. With all respect to Medea Benjamin, who is a fine author and critic, very knowlegable and resourceful, I find this position in 2009 to be more than a little subservient to her Democrat Elites. With her service in support of Democrat candidates in the past noted, this post election support of Obamas escalation in Af-Pak would be outrageous even if she were an independant commentator, not an "anti-war" leader. Certainly the criticism was muted at best from Ford Foundation sources like Pacifca Radio, and Liberal media NPR,PBS (or outright endorsement promotion) when the decision was made you would be hard pressed to find any broadcast media attacking the Obama war policy. This leaves no doubt in my mind that Foundation funded Liberals, authors and activists are paid to reach conclusions, are academic frauds in service to imperialism, and actors who time public "outrages" accordingly. The war in Afghanistan was also vigorously promoted by the print press. Af-Pak is, and was a serious international war crime, regardless on your views on 9/11, and 8 years of mass murder by President Bush, along with Iraq, bolstered by lies attempting to connect Saddam and Al Queda/ and bogus Sept.11th falsified reporting, and concocted WMD propaganda. Even one more U.S. jet bombing of either country under Obama in 2009 is unjustified considering the lack of evidence against both Pakistan and Afghanistan with regard to the WTC attacks, and indeed the U.S. Government planned both Iraq and Afghan wars well ahead of 9/11 it had been concretely proven.Code Pink and Medea Benjamin only changed their position to "pullout from Afghanistan in 2011 after Obamas heinous bloodbath was well under way, with disasterous results, including 600 wounded soldiers each month.
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    Here after a fact finding mission to Afghanistan in 2009, she supports nation building while admitting that she wasn't allowed to talk to many civllians and was limited to embedded reporter type limitations

    "So yes: the U.S. pulls out and there could be tremendous chaos because of the lack of authentic support for this government. That’s why I feel we have to have a responsible exit strategy that includes pressure on this government to get rid of people who were responsible for crimes, to build up a justice system that can actually function."

    Is Medea Benjamin Naive or Just Confused? by Scott Horton -- Antiwar.com

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    'Code Pink' rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout

    'Code Pink' rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout - CSMonitor.com


    Code Pink changed its position to "pull out" of Af-Pak in 2011

    Code Pink: Get out of Afghanistan - USATODAY.com
     
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    Nothing has changed.

    Drudge posts a picture of Hillary and puts the "President" caption under it.

    The Freepers and Righties froth at the mouth. Fear manipulation just like the 90's.

    The Status Quo never changes.
     
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    Boycotting GM helps keep you from buying high price junk, and expecting it to last any length of time. (I didn't realize I agreed with the right on this one, I must admit).

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    The GOP should have done something about it when they had the chance to during the Bush dictatorship then, huh?Too late now...the horse has left the barn. Political posturing...nothing more.
     
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    I love it when you and others show their ignorance



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    Consumer Reports gives top truck honors to Chevy, with Ram ...
    www.latimes.com/...autos-consumer-reports-top-truck-chevy... Cached
    With 2013 shaping up to be a high-water mark for the pickup truck market, Consumer Reports announced a photo finish in the latest competition for top truck.



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    Consumer Reports gives Chevrolet Impala Top Marks
    www.newroads.ca/blog/consumer-reports-chevrolet...top-marks Cached
    Consumer Reports is giving high praise to the new Chevrolet Impala, calling it the best new sedan the magazine has tested.

    New Cadillac concept. One of the prettiest Cadillac ever made.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-tyc8&p=new cadillac concept cars 2014&type=
     
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    1. So Prez. Obama supposedly kills the worlds most reknown terrorist, throws the body over board, but won't show us the photos of the kill. How gullible are you people ???

    2. So Prez. Bush tries to connect Iraq with the war on terror, and says there is a link w/ Saddam and Al Queda but has no proof. So after Sept. 11th, Bush automatically knows who did it 90 minutes after the event, says there were no warnings, WTC 7 falls by itself, there is a video of a missle hitting the Penagon, and the U.S. seizes Iraq oil fields. Hello, McFly! Anyone home? False Flag conspiracy here!

    [video=youtube;4-tkBzcIb28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-tkBzcIb28[/video]

    3. So Prez. Obama says we have WMD in Syria, have to bomb and support overthrow, just after another fat lie and bogus threat of Quaddafi in Libya. Hello, do we see a pattern here? Big Oil reserves? Pipelines from Iran?

    4. Rachel Maddow formerly of the "anti war" movement says we have to confront Iran to her Liberal audience, Amy Goodman formerly of the "anti war" movement lies about Syria flase flag as does Tom Hartman, Randi Rhodes, and Ed Schultz of the 'Progressive' "anti war" groups, so does Pacifica Radio, lies about new Obama wars just like Fox News did for the GOP. Looks like all the Progressive Hosts are Govmnt spooks, supporting wars all of a sudden, OOPSY!
     
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    Another Radio Host ,Birther and Tea Partier/Rand Paul Supporter admits ties to govmnt
    [video=youtube;p6CSjj3HT7E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6CSjj3HT7E[/video]
     
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    How much do these piles of junk COST??? 40, 50 grand?? No thanks.

    They were junk at 20K which I paid for my GM junk, and I'm sure they're junk at 40 or 50 K.
     
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    They are priced right along with their competition. If they sold them for a lot more no one would buy them. But as you can see, GM is putting out some real fine cars. As Consumer Report said, Chevrolet Impala, calling it the best new sedan the magazine has tested. That's saying a hell of a lot for a magazine that has done nothing but praise Japanes cars for the last 15 years and bad mouthed American.
     
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    The Japanese make cheaper, more reliable cars...sorry. Oh, and they actually HONOR the warranties on their cars too.
     
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    You keep trying to compare American cars to the ones they put out years ago and they aren't the same. In most cases even the owners and CEO's aren't the same. Neither are the imports. Toyota has had more recalls in the last 5 years than any auto maker. After years of trying Honda is still having transmission trouble. Nissan is recalling over a million vehicles for brake and sensor problems.

    I can't understand why an American still wants to trash their own country's products when they are finally putting out some of the best in the world. It only hurts this country and I think we have been hurt enough with this economy the way it is. If it's ever to get better, we need to start supporting what we make and support American companies.
     
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    I trash it Sir, because I experienced it in reality, and I won't even try and go into the disputes I had with GM over the issues they refused to address (much like the right refuses to address anything). GM BLOWS. They cost me lots of money, and their cars suck.
     
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    I have mixed emotions on the whole Buy American or Buy Foreign issue.

    When Toyota realized they could not build enough cars just in Japan....they went and did a study and found that out of all the countries they could choose from the best place to invest in multi-billion dollar plants was the U.S.

    As well they found out that contrary to some peoples belief....the average American Worker is rated #1 as the most productive worker in the world.....so because of this more Toyota's are made in the U.S. than in Japan.

    The U.S. Auto Industry is coming back...slowly....but RTWING is right....U.S. Auto's are still too expensive on average.

    They need to fix this.

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    How Can Such Big Spenders in the U.S. Government and Former Congressmen be Expected to Lead the Major Reforms the Tea Party Claims to Endorse?

    Aren't These the same People Who Got Us Where We Are Today?


    Former Bush/Reaganites fund and support World Net Daily, FreedomWorks, etc., and we're supposed to believe these same GOP people who created the HUGE deficits in the last 30 years are suddenly budget govmnt spending hawks? On the flip side, one of the best speeches against the war in Syria that I heard on internet radio was given by Ron Paul and another with Ron Paul Institute guy Director Daniel McAdams. To Ron Pauls credit, his Ron Paul Institute think tank has some good people on it, like Dennis Kucinich, but I also heard a radio interview with another woman, PROF. HILLARY MANN LEVERETT from this think tank, who was an absolute war hawk, and talked like McCain. I would say the same thing about Shauer, Col. Wilkerson who are also members.

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/about-us.aspx

    It is not clear how such diametrically opposed people can work to the same ends. It is like Tea Party Libertarian host Monica Perez who calls herself a "anarcho-capitalist":roll: Isn't that like saying you think Haagan-Daaz chocolate fudge/Cherry Garcia is the best ice cream? They are two different things altogether! But I think "grass roots" can best be measured by protest numbers, and the number who protested against Iraq worldwide was in the millions. I'm not dissing you by saying the Tea Party is Astroturf its, some Progressives are corporate/govmnt fronts as well I show in my news story links. Its just a fact.

    COINTELPRO/ controlled assets/Astroturf exist on both sides of the political spectrum. Sometimes a Prison Planet author will be very keen about how certain "Progressives" are funded by the CIA while ignoring controlled assets in the Right Wing/Tea Party/GOP. Many Liberals will not touch the subject of COINTELPRO or Foundation funding of "grassroots opposition" because it literally indicts 2/3 of all "Progressive" or Liberal websites, radio, and many authors, hosts fear they will ostracized from their various "Progressive" outlets. Many public radio outlets choose to ignore at their own peril, that certain authors, professors, and media icons have been CIA front Foundation funded their entire career and because of name recognition (like Chomksy) feature them anyway. Or they will use Foundation trained or funded journalists from the Hertiage Foundation,(Ann Coulter) the Nation magazine, or Real News Network, have major problems in the credibilty department, because they are still lying about the major issues like the fact that the wars in Libya, Syria and other "Arab Spring" nations were not spontaneous grassroots uprising but were regime change policies enacted by the Pentagon.

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    "That is why the ‘rebels’ which imperialism sends into other countries to colonize them on behalf of foreign banks and corporations, have to be marketed as ‘revolutionaries’ in order to assure the support of the Monty Python brigade of petty-bourgeois, ‘ leftist’ dupes such as Democracy Now! and their ilk.


    Former French Foreign Minister: The War against Syria was Planned Two years before ?The Arab Spring? | Global Research
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    the spectrum of Right Wing talking points in the media is funded by the Ultra Rich Elites ...


    The Corporate Lobbyists Behind the Tea Parties


    "FreedomWorks was launched a GOP version of MoveOn. "We believe that hard work beats daddy's money," said Dick Armey at the time. Armey seems to be a bit irony challenged -- Steve Forbes is on the FreedomWorks board. As Krugman notes, their money comes from the Koch, Scaife, Bradley, Olin and other reliable funders of right wing infrastructure including Exxon Mobil."

    Jane Hamsher: The Corporate Lobbyists Behind the Tea Parties

    The Billionaire Koch Brothers’ War Against Obama : The New Yorker

    Americans for Prosperity - SourceWatch

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    "Fear, Inc., The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America"

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    Tea Party funders are Bushs former Big Spenders

    "Wrote Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone, “Suddenly, tens of thousands of Republicans who had been conspicuously silent during George Bush's gargantuan spending on behalf of defense contractors and hedge-fund gazillionaires showed up at Tea Party rallies across the nation, declaring themselves fed up with wasteful government spending. From the outset, the events were organized and financed by the conservative wing of the Republican Party, which was quietly working to co-opt the new movement and deploy it to the GOP's advantage. Taking the lead was former House majority leader Dick Armey, who as chair of a group called FreedomWorks helped coordinate Tea Party rallies across the country.”

    "FreedomWorks financial backers have included several conservative foundations—including the Bradley, Scaife, Castle Rock, Earhart, and Olin foundations[12]—as well as the Koch brothers (David and Charles), who along with Rupert Murdoch have provided much of the financial backing for anti-Obama administration activism."


    FreedomWorks - Profile - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies

    Scaife and Freedomworks

    "The total of Scaife’s giving—to conservatives as well as many other beneficiaries—exceeds $600 million, or $1.4 billion in current dollars, much more than any previous estimate. In the world of big-time philanthropy, there are many bigger givers. The Ford Foundation gave away $491 million in 1998 alone. But by concentrating his giving on a specific ideological objective for nearly 40 years, and making most of his grants with no strings attached, Scaife’s philanthropy has had a disproportionate impact on the rise of the right, perhaps the biggest story in American politics in the last quarter of the 20th century.”

    "Financing for these foundations is largely drawn from the oil, aluminum, and banking holdings of the Mellon family. Scaife is the sole donor to both the Carthage and Allegheny Foundations, which he founded and of which he serves as chairman. He also serves as chairman and head of the Sarah Scaife Foundation, a position he assumed following his mother’s death in 1965 "


    "Scaife gained notoriety in the 1990s for his at times outlandish efforts to oust President Bill Clinton. Among his efforts, he funded conservative magazine The American Spectator’s “Arkansas Project,” a controversial effort to investigate President Bill Clinton’s dealings while governor of Arkansas. The stories published by Spectator reporter David Brock ranged from Clinton’s infidelity to more hyperbolic, conspiracy-minded items. Scaife also used his newspaper, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, to push the theory that the suicide of former Clinton aide Vince Foster was really a murder, and that the Clintons were covering it up."

    Scaife Foundations - Profile - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies

    "With his brother Charles, who is seventy-four, David Koch owns virtually all of Koch Industries, a conglomerate, headquartered in Wichita, Kansas, whose annual revenues are estimated to be a hundred billion dollars."

    The Billionaire Koch Brothers’ War Against Obama : The New Yorker

    Sound like grassroots ???


    see also: conservative benefactor Scaife and other Elites behind political movements ...

    "From 1973 to 1975, Scaife ran Forum World Features, a foreign news service used as a front to disseminate CIA propaganda around the world. Shortly afterwards he began donating millions to fund the New Right.

    "The political machine they built is broad and comprehensive, covering every aspect of the political fight. It includes right-wing departments and chairs in the nation’s top universities, think tanks, public relations firms, media companies, fake grassroots organizations that pressure Congress (irreverently known as "Astroturf" movements), "Roll-out-the-vote" machines, pollsters, fax networks, lobbyist organizations, economic seminars for the nation’s judges, and more. And because corporations are the richest sector of society, their greater financing overwhelms similar efforts by Democrats."

    "Besides creating foundations, the CIA helped organize the business community. There have always been special interest groups representing business, like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers, and the CIA has long been involved with them. However, after 1973, a spate of powerful new groups would come into existence, like the Business Roundtable and the Trilateral Commission. These organizations quickly became powerhouses in promoting the business agenda."


    The Origins of the Overclass
     
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    Rush was actually on Family Guy twice. One episode actually glorified the demogogue.
    Hollywood people are so dumb. :thumbsdown:

    Anyway, Arbitron ratings are falsified by the radio industry. I bet the truth is that Rush struggles to get a million listeners daily.
     
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    So the (*)(*)(*)(*) what.
     
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    The whole Obama Syria WMD false flag was dropped on a dime to give everyone 2 weeks of the "shut down" fiasco. What do these radio companies choose the topics for you, like one journalist admitted regarding Clear Channel and the Art Bell show ? That may seem flip but it is a serious question. Who dictates what these radio and TV news/politics shows discuss? Why is there never any hard news about what is going on inside the Libya, Syria countries as there was back in the 1980's, when everyday you could pick up the newspaper, and read about Reagans heinous death squads in Nicaragua and El Salvador?

    Thats really obscene how since the Syria airstrike issue was about to be voted out, so the Prez. backed down, now all of a sudden, the terrorists Obama is still arming , the innocent Syrian people Obama is still slaughtering, they are suddenly not newsworthy enough for most news/politics shows? The Syrian people are good people, they are not terrorists, they are peaceful. They deserve to live out their lives without some NeoCon in Liberal clothing like Obama killing them with car bombs, arming terrorists shooting up their homes and slaughtering their women and children for some New World Order strategem concocted by the CIA/Pentagon for the benefit of Big Oil and Big Bankers.

    The peoples voice matters, and there is no need for the endless cynicism and fatalism that these war crimes cannot be stopped, as people in the media damn well better realize that you cannot simply sit around waiting for these atrocities to become academic, like some Vietnam war dissertation, or become some post tragedy rationalization during a public radio interview. Progressives, and Independants must have the true believers spirit that change is possible, and that change just isn’t just a word on Buzzflash to feed the Democrat herd with the latest domestic dogma or inside the Beltway kerfuffle. Demand responsible news media broadcasting, and turn off the tabloid trash reporting.

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    The Two-Party System Is A Farce

    By Tim Gatto


    "Everybody knows that this so-called government shutdown is bulls__t. Everybody knows who the actors are and everybody knows why they are doing the things they are doing. The insane chatter on MSNBC,CNN and all the other networks is just crap to keep us on edge. The Government is not going to default on the 17th and everyone knows it."

    http://www.countercurrents.org/gatto081013.htm


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    Model for model, American vehicles are not more expensive than imports. If they were, they would hardly sell anything. You have to price yourself along with your competition. RTWING, what year was the GM car you had? My wife and I just priced the new ones and bought two.
     
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    Sounds like my kind of guy---an "old man with a head" who has been around and seen the world over the decades, how this country has changed (mostly for the worse), and is starting to take stands to 'save' it for the next generations.
     
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    And yet all the TV/radio networks covered this non-issue without ceasing. That tells you something - not only do words have no meaning in 1984 but in Americas Fascism.
     
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    I am relatively wealthy and I own a few cars as well as own a few classic American Cars and there is NOTHING like an American Made Truck or Muscle Car from the late 60's.

    I just recently purchased MY FIRST FOREIGN CAR....but it is a Toyota and made in the U.S.

    I bought this car for my P.A. as it get's great gas mileage and for it's cost, it's guarantee and it's track record...it was the best choice.

    What American Cars are lacking...but are getting much better at....is a reasonably priced 40 mpg highway...vehicle.

    I prefer a Caddy or Town Car to a Mercedes or Acura or Infinity...etc....as the American Cars seem to have more room and are nicer.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Tommy my lad the only one who has been brainwashed was the author of that hit piece.

    Tommy my boy, congress not the president controls the purse strings and all appropriations bills must originate in the house and guess which party has controlled the house for 68 of the last 80 years and the senate for 72 of the last 80 years. And for six of those years that the Republicans controlled both houses of congress we got as close to balancing the budget as we have at anytime since the Great Depression. So please knock of the duplicitous crap about whose fault this mess is. There is only one aprty that brought this on and it starts with a d. The War in Iraq will cost us far less than no bureaucrat er child left behind and far less than the Medicare drug benefit will cost us over time.
     

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