Hunter Biden sues Rudy Giuliani over laptop

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  1. straight ahead

    straight ahead Well-Known Member

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    On one hand, it's not my laptop. It doesn't belong to me, nothing in it is mine, nothing in it is true, and nothing in it has anything to do with me.

    One the other hand, I'm suing you for stealing my laptop, even though it's not mine and you didn't steal it.

    Considering what comes out of the mouths of Democrats, is this really that bad? :razz:
     
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  2. balancing act

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    They didn't, and I did look for it and couldn't find where Joe Biden had gotten a check of any amount from Chinese companies, and notice that you didn't provide any so I'm not looking it up anymore and reject the notion that Joe Biden was paid ANY amount of money from China, or anyone else for that matter.
    Thanks for playing..............
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    So he used that as his mailing address? Who caused it and into whose account did it to? These findings seem intentionally vague as always
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Copies of the data was in Rudy's hand. The original computers and data were confiscated by the FBI long before Rudy knew anything about it.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why don't we try it this way since you don't want to respond to what I said. What is your understanding of this, what did you learn when you read about it?
     
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    For the American people. Tarriffs legally imposed on Chinese goods that goes into the Treasury as opposed to Bidens pockets.
     
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    Hunter was making all those deals in 2017. Did you see the presentation by House GOP about Hunter Biden? Hunter was making those illegal deals in 2017. Trump was POTUS and Joe Biden was a private citizen.

    Hunter Biden made a back room deal with trump, and Trump DOJ in 2017 didn’t prosecute Hunter.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Those deals were spread over a 15 year period. The DOJ never concluded their investigation while Trump was in office, they delayed everything until the statute of limitations began to run out and but then all the overwhelming evidence of corruption, as is once again being presented today in the House, in this family started coming to light and the tried the sweetheart deal.
     
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    Even the gop witnesses today were saying they can’t find a crime lol
     
  10. TCassa89

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    That's... not what this lawsuit is.... the lawsuit is in relation to alleged hacking of data, which is typically when someone manipulates data to collect one's password information. It is not about ownership of the laptop itself
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    All the while discussing how the DOJ refused to investigate it and high officials there interfered with it and prevented investigators from investing anything that had to do with The Big Guy. With the bare evidence the House has been able to produce they all clearly said a further inquiry is FULLY called for.. OF course they all discussed how in fact Biden did know about the business, took part in the business and money was flowing to his house and family. The question being what did he know and when did he know and they all said we don't know that YET but that what we do know fully justifies an impeachment inquiry especially since the prosecutor who was supposed to investigation this evidence choose not to and in fact was a party in trying to get them off. So let the OFFICIAL inquiry begin and let's get the bank records and lets' put them under oath.

    Comer said today he is issuing those subpoena's today.
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    The everything on it became the property of the shop owner. No different if you left some papers in a filing cabinet you put in a consignment shop and abandoned, anything in it becomes the property of the shop. Ever watch those shows about people who buy abandoned storage units and people bid for it and then they open to find out what is in it. Everything in it becomes their property.
     
  13. TCassa89

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    Mmm no, you can’t hack a filing cabinet to get more login info. Please note, there are state and federal laws against hacking, so this notion that this as comparable to an abandoned filing cabinet doesn’t compare, legally speaking

    It all depends on what they did to get that information they uncovered. If they for example, used the laptop to log into his email, and then used that email to get login information for other accounts, that would be a clear violation of US hacking laws. I’m not saying that is what they did, we have to wait and see what evidence can be brought out if this. The point is, login information carries more data than what is saved on the laptop. Just because you have a computer that doesn’t belong to someone anymore, doesn’t mean you are permitted to log into that person’s accounts, such as their email, or their WhatsApp account
     
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    He had the logon information and the information was his when the laptop was abandoned. Hunter was simply displaying the stupidity for which even the people that were using him to gain influence commented on in the evidence.
     
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    That's if you stop paying the rent. Did that happen with Hunter?
     
  16. TCassa89

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    Just because you have one's login information doesn't mean you are legally permitted to login to ones account. For example, lets say you sold me your computer, and then it turned out that your email login was still on that computer. If I then proceeded to use that information to login to said email and go through your emails, I would be committing a hacking crime. Having one's login that they left behind does not legally mean you can login to their account and go through it, just like how finding one's car keys that they left behind doesn't legally give you permission to enter their car and go for a joyride.
     
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  17. Bluesguy

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    Yes he was legally permitted and it was HIS at that point just as if I bought a storage unit you abandoned.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    He didn't pay the bill. It is NOT in dispute whether the laptop became the property of the shop after the 90 day period.

    Back in about 1978 I had been in Chicago playing music for a few years but planning to move back to Alabama. Was dating a girl and at her friends house when the mother asked me to look at a banjo that had been in the family for decades but had some slight water damage. I opened the case and there on the headstock it didn't say just "Gibson" it said "The Gibson". Anyone knowing anything such thing would instantly realize that this is a HIGHLY VALUABLE instrument. Even back then $10K or more. So it took it to Wooden Music as they were experts and yes they were floored to see it and yes they could repair.

    So a few weeks later and I'm about to move soon Wooden Music calls and it is ready and the bill was like $90. So I called the people and told them it was ready bring me the money and I would pick it up. Well I waited and waited and they were not showing up with the money. There on the ticket for the repair, any instruments left after 90 days become property of the shop and can be sold. It was getting close to move so I called an attorney. He told me that possession is of course 9/10's of the law so if there is a threat if left the ownership would go to the shop to go and pick it up and take it with you and later if they want it tell them to come to Alabama and get it. BUT......here is the BUT......send them a certified return receipt letter telling them your are leaving the state. So I did and the DAY before I left there was a knock on the door and the mother was there with the money and I had to give it to her.....................oh well.

    The fact is in these situations if you leave something there, like the consignment shop lawsuit on which I was a juror, you lose ownership and it transfers to the shop or storage unit or whatever and that included everything in it.
     
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    Show me the court order verifying abandoned property.
     
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    Doesn't take a court order he could have sued then but he would have lost in court. It's on the repair order which he signed. It's posted in the shop. It is STANDARD PRACTICE.
     
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    The state of deleware requires holders to properly notify the state of abandoned items to demonstrate they are truly abandoned. Where are Isaac's communications and court order showing he attempted to contact Hunter?

    A contract does not supercede state law.
     
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    The laptop might be his, but email stored on a remote serve doesn’t become his.
     
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    The computer would be his, but not the electronic accounts that were previously logged into on said computer(such as emails and social media accounts). That would be like saying if you buy a storage unit, and there are car keys inside that were left by the previous owner, then you now legally own the car. That's not how the law works

    Bingo
     
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  24. Bluesguy

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    The information ON THE LAPTOP there is no evidence it was used to logon to any outside accounts.
     
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    The emails were stored on the laptop, there were archives on them.
     

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