Hunter Biden sues Rudy Giuliani over laptop

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  1. independentthinker

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    What laptop? I thought that was all Russian disinformation?
     
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    I didn't say there was evidence, I clearly stated in post #88 "I’m not saying that is what they did, we have to wait and see what evidence can be brought out if this"

    What I was saying is IF they used the computer to go into his emails and other login accounts, and then proceeded to go through his emails and other login accounts, that would be a clear violation of hacking and privacy laws.

    No, your emails are not stored/archived on your computer, they are stored/archived on an online server. Hence why you have to have internet access in order to login to your email. The computer is used to access the email server, the same way a key is used to access a car. Just because you own the computer doesn't mean you own the accounts that computer was previously used to access.

    I want you to think about everything a computer is used for, including private emails, business emails, and bank accounts. Owning the computer does not mean you own those accounts. That is completely irrational, and not how the law works by any measure
     
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    The emails include December 2009- end of 2016, all but one of the 8 years when Joe was employed as Vice President
     
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    And none implicate joe in anything illegal.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Since they implicate Joe in receiving half of all of Hunters income there is quite a bit of illegality on Joes part.
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Unproven claims of a crackhead giving money to an unnamed person
     
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    We already know that it is not in dispute. The information was ALL IN THE LAPTOP and additional external drives Hunter abandoned. I have LOTS of emails stored and archived on my computers and I suggest you do the same.
     
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    Source?

    Also, who transferred the data onto an external drive if the laptop was left at a repair shop? Or are we to believe that both the laptop and the external drive were left at the shop?
     
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    Actually it’s hard drives ( as in multiple copies). So are you suggesting the FBI gave a copy to the NY Post? Than provided access to Giuliani, Ziegler, Costello? Is that story plausible?
     
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    Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.

    The three laptops, Mac Isaac recalls, were all liquid damaged. One was dead. One was easily revived. The third, a 13-inch MacBook Pro, had a sticky, ruined keyboard.
    The Sordid Saga of Hunter Biden’s Laptop (nymag.com)

    FBI has all three AND hard drives the repair shop owner was attempting to download the data onto. The shop owner gave copies of the data to others.
     
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    Is there evidence of Joe knowing anything criminal was taking place? Hunter hasn't been charged with criminal activity also.
     
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    LOLOL! Hunter has only one "pop".
    "Don't worry, unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary"
     
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    Yet no proof of it.
     
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    And from the FBI and IRS whistleblowers we know they were prevented from making complete investigations. Werent allowed to access or use any of the information from the laptop. Werent allowed to follow leads regarding his "dad" or "the big guy"
     
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    Once you download the emails they reside on your computer and in most cases the server might automatically delete them in a few weeks. If emails weren’t stored on computers then Lois Lerner and five of her buddies damaged their hard drives for no reason at all.
     
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    I believe Hunter wanted his computer repaired and the data recovered. He also brought along with him several external hard drives and wanted that data transferred onto the computer. I could be wrong, but that’s what I heard.
     
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    An admission by the accused is very effective at establishing proof in criminal trials
     
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    Right, like the guy in Georgia who just plead guilty?
    And joe has admitted anything.
     
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    Mac Issac, on the day hunter dropped off laptop, told hunter to acquire a hard drive for the data to be transferred to. Hunter came back 2 days later with the hard drive.
     
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    Yeah, hes sticking with the claim that he didnt know his son was on the Board of Burisma, and you still believe him.
     
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    Hunter brought in the hard drive with the laptop........................I am not here to educate you on these known facts that have been known for years. Go get up to speed and get back to me this is a waste of my time.
     
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    The question is who transferred the data to the external drive. Since you don't seem to understand what I am getting at I will explain it to you. When a computer repair shop is repairing a water damaged laptop, with a damaged hard drive(as was the case with the laptop in question), the way they restore the data on that damaged drive is they transfer that data unto an external drive, then they replace the damaged internal drive and transfer the data from the external drive back onto the newly installed internal drive that is on that laptop.

    If the data containing private information, such a email or bank account information is modified in any manner that is not authorized by the owner of said accounts, then this constitutes as the legal definition of data tampering. There are laws in replace to protect that private information, the same way there are laws to protect the information left in your wallet. So for example, if one were to leave a pair of pants at a cleaner that had their wallet left in the pocket, and then the owner of said pants failed to claim that pair of pants.. they would lose ownership of those pants, but the private information within the wallet would still be legally protected. This is especially true for any bank account information within that wallet

    The same applies for data containing information for private accounts, such as emails and bank accounts. The information linked to those accounts, including the data within those accounts along with the login information are protected under state and federal law. If anyone intentionally modifies data as a means of creating unauthorized access to that account information, this constitutes as data tampering. Likewise, this is especially true for any bank account information within that data
     
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    That is not a question we know as I already told you. They are not in dispute.
     
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    I didn't claim you did know, but it is one of multiple legal questions that will determine if this incident was a violation of our data privacy laws. Note that how this case is handled could have an impact on all future cases of data privacy. Again, we have laws in place that protects certain data the same way the law protects the private information that is kept in one's wallet. If we're going to determine through this case that this information is not protected, then it could have a tremendous impact on data privacy as a whole. Anyone who trades in, sells, gifts, throws away, or loses their old computer could be affected by this case.
     
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    Lol…sounds like a good idea, but that would certainly impact trump’s habit of suing everyone who doesn’t meekly stick their head up his ass.
    Of course, he’ll just tell his peeps to donate weekly to fund his frivolous legal shenanigans.
    Hope you people have deep pockets.
     

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