I am now convinced that Trump's actions on January 6th were criminal

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  1. Sallyally

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    Whatabout?
     
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    It's kind of strange they claim to be for "law and order" but this whole thing is whitewashed into a rowdy kegger. There would have been many more injuries and deaths if that angry mob was any other race, religion or nationality.

    So, let's recap. ONE officer facing a black or brown person and thinks they may cause harm **deserves** to be choked out or shot and killed, but hundreds of angry people beating Capitol officers is cool?

    In the aftermath, 5 Capitol police officers are dead. As a former cop, I can only imagine what Trump's absolute refusal to engage back-up for the Capitol police officers did to morale all over the country.

    /smdh
     
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    It does, precisely, mean it.
     
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    Only criminals have no values.

    Are you saying you have no values?
     
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    “Police Mag” is NOT a credible source, so that article holds no water. I’ve seen countless videos of January 6th. There were NOT that many people injured. In fact, the only fatality on that day was the unarmed woman shot. If roles were reversed that day, the left would have been screaming to the moon about “police brutality”. You people only use these incidents when it’s convenient in order to score political points. Nobody is fooled by it. Your side isn’t “for the police” so knock that garbage out and stop pretending like you care about injured cops. As a whole, your side celebrates dead cops and everyone knows it.

    And what in the blue hell does some washed-up ex-QB have to do with any of this? LOL
     
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    Didn't kill any of them though. Natural causes and suicides don't count.
     
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    On what criteria did you base your judgement of "Police Magazine"? They look to be a credible trade journal to me, going so far as being a clearing house for leads from police departments around OUR Nation.
    I don't understand your attempt to change the subject. Many publications have published the 140 officer injury number, I don't know what the root source of that number but it must be credible with so many varied sources supporting it.
    I just can't imagine Progressive and Liberal Americans attacking the Capitol to overturn a free and fair election, for a Conman president. "I" am not representing a side, just reporting the facts as I found them and you could find with a simple internet search. In fact I do care about "injured cops" but I made no such claim in the post your replied to. IF I have a side, I assure you I don't celebrate death. <-period That's an awful accusation to make of anyone. The truth is I have had many friends that were "Cops" in my lifetime and have always enjoyed their company.
    In "blue hell" and the real world it's a telling dichotomy that Benedict Donald and his supporters chastised a man (to the point of ruining his career) for not "honoring OUR Flag" and then they used that same flag as a weapon, against police (that the supposedly support) while attacking OUR Capitol.
     
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    Those are bazaar rules you're running your game by, I hope you won't mind if I don't play.
     
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    What? That I'm not sympathetic toward suicides?

    Suicidal people at their core are selfish.
     
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    Police Mag is most definitely not a scholarly source. You may as well have listed a Wikipedia link. Hell, VIDEO evidence proves that “140” cops were not injured. Absolutely laughable. There were a few at most. 140? LOL

    That QB’s career ended because he sucked, PERIOD. Notice how his antics didn’t start until the moment he was benched. He never took a knee or said 1 word until his ass was placed on the bench. That tells us everything. He was a 1-trick pony with one or two decent seasons. Once they had tape on him, he was shut down.

    And are you seriously claiming that a huge portion of the left doesn’t celebrate dead cops? Hell, the entire progressive side does, along with the majority of black people. And FWIW, those weren’t “cops” at the Capital. They are essentially federal security guards with arresting power. They aren’t “cops”. Their duties are strictly security related, not law enforcement. They attend a joke of a FLETC academy for a few weeks and are given a gun. I find it cute how for YEARS, the left screamed about cops. Then, miraculously…. on January 6th, the left claims they are “heroes”. The hypocrisy is absolutely despicable.
     
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    Funny how the blue stripe crowd who defaced the US flag for political purposes, allegedly patriots in support of cops, turn around and crap on the cops defending the US capitol.

    https://www.wci360.com/more-than-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot-chiefs-testify/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html

    https://www.newsweek.com/134-police-officers-injured-capitol-riots-court-filing-1564166
     
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    I can respect that.
     
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    They aren’t cops, they are federal security guards with arresting power. They attend a basic FLETC academy for a few weeks and are handed a gun to stand guard at federal buildings. These are NOT “cops” no matter how you try to spin it.
     
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    OK. Let's go with your false statement. Why is it okay for an angry mob to attack and injure "a few" police officers? Are you seriously suggesting it was not serious because you've rewritten history on the magnitude of that riot and its aftermath?
    Nobody celebrates the death of cops.

    It's irrelevant if they are "cops" or not. They were there acting on behalf of our lawmakers and were viciously attacked by an angry mob stoked by Trump.

    Any other lies or deflections?
     
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    I'll attribute that to a lack of understanding, people that commit suicide are troubled souls caught up in a dark world they can't escape from. Contrary to your belief they often take themselves out because they don't want to be a bother to the ones they love.

    But, actually I was thinking along the lines that because the insurrectionists didn't kill the cops that died (which is debatable) that they get a pass even though they contributed to tragedy. :shock:
     
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    Those are vile unfounded accusations that only have a place in Donald Judas tRump's alternative fats world of lies. :bye:
     
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    You can’t prove that 140 “cops” were injured. That’s an outrageous lie. I challenge you to find a legit source for that, that isn’t written by some liberal beat-writer.

    “Nobody celebrates the death of cops”

    Another outrageous claim that is easily debunked just scrolling through internet liberal message boards and YouTube comments.

    It’s also too bad that you can’t prove that Trump “stoked” anything. Show me the words from his lips that told people to converge on the Capital and take it. Tell us, is it similar to what Maxine Waters or Chuck Schumer would say?
     
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    It’s a very bad look when the POTUS attacks a private citizen. Donald Trump had no respect for his office and didn’t know how he should behave toward someone who didn’t have his influence.
    The condition of the QB has nothing to do with the issue. Trump should have kept his trap shut and not attacked a private citizen.
     
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    We could play your circular game of "prove it" ~ "that's not proof" until the cows come home. But 140 seems to be the number most thinking people have settled on; I know, that leaves you out. But as MJ D said even if it was one, isn't that too many?

    I'm sure if you scour Liberal or Conservative message boards and YouTube, you'll unfortunately find people celebrating violence of all kinds; but are those people you want to reference your posts on? And what does there troubled opinion count for? The big anonymous world of the internet provides a huge platform for liping off that most of those people would never say in public; take you for instance. :bye:
     
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    1) Committing suicide often has the result of encouraging other family members to commit suicide. Thus it is an inherently selfish act

    Further I don't give a damn what dark places they come from or how troubled their souls are. Almost every person on Earth has thought about suicide at one point or the other including me.

    No one gets a pass for the events of Jan. 6th. Even if the rioters killed no one it was still a despicable act.
     
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    Kind of like how Biden opened his trap about Rittenhouse? Like that?
     
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    I'm highly allergic to Trump apologists. No thanks.
     
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    Whatabout?
     
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    Like the third point.
     
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