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I liked Ron Paul until I heard he supports gay marriage.

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by jedimiller, Jan 1, 2012.

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you only advocate that "Gay people...ARE PEOPLE! And as such, .....they need to have their love-based unions RECOGNIZED"? Why not ALL PEOPLE ...ARE PEOPLE! And as such, .....they need to have their love-based unions RECOGNIZED. Kind of reveals the true agenda.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Aaaaand then you proceeded to claim "there's several studies" YOU offered as "proof they are born that way"
     
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    Absolutely.
    The agenda is to push back on an attack that is specifically directed at them, by trying to specifically define marriage as between a man and a woman.
    Was women's suffrage illegitimate because it sought only to get the vote for women?
     
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    Nooooo I wasn't offering it up as proof they were born that way, so I basically have no idea why you've decided to place that in quotation marks. Just more distraction from the real issue.
     
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    Sexuality doesn't form at birth so technically no-one is "born gay", but the evidence suggests that the biological factors that can, combined with environment, develop a person's sexuality are present at birth. Quite different, but refutes the idea of it having been a conscious choice.
     
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    I didnt make a conscious choice to prefer chocolate ice cream over vanilla, but yet, every time I go to the grocery store I make a conscious choice to buy chocolate intead of vanilla.
     
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    Because they are quotes of what was said, again from YOUR post

     
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    Are you trying to make this easy?
    Or are you just a tad slow on the up-take here...

    LOL...my true agenda...

    Actually my TRUE agenda is to rid American politics of nut-cases who take quotes out of context, argue till they're blue in the face about nonsense, and hold-up government creating a grid-lock where nothing gets done.

    You know...the common T-Baggers.

    That's MY true agenda...what's yours?
     
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    So easy you should have been able to answer a simple question. Must just be an unwillingness to do so.
     
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    ...

    Except for the fact that ice cream preferences aren't determined by biological factors linked to genes, gender and hormones unlike sexual orientation.

    If it were as simple as a mere preference for a particular flavour of ice cream, I don't think conservatives would be so vehemently opposed to it somehow... Do you?
     
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    Gay and lesbian rights? I was looking for the polygamist rights forum. Can anyone help me find it?
     
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    No problem.

    Here it is:

    http://www.4thefamily.us/forum
     
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    If the pregnancy endangered her life, because of the heart problem, then anypone who condemns her is a hipocrit. I say this because they are calling themselves "pro life" but demandsing she die so her child can live....

    I personally think abodtion should be legal only in cases of rape or if the mother's life is in danger.
     
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    That is not proof that is assumption and speculation. There is no proof anyone is born gay.
     
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    So you did not read the link.
     
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    There is no proof you are born that way so it is a choice. Just like I have a choice to stay faithful to my wife
     
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    My dog loves me that is all that matters
     
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    What makes Gays civil. From what I have seen of Gay Pride parades on the internet there is nothing civil about them
     
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    there is as much proof homosexuality is a choice, as there is that heterosexuality is.
     
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    idiotic argument. dogs can't consent.
     
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    So you did not read the link? If both partners are faithful what is the risk in heterosexual relationship.I am at no risk then again I do not commit sodomy
     
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    How exactly would you expect someone to "prove" that they did not consciously decide to become homosexual? What evidence would you accept?

    That is like me accusing you of being a closet pedophile...are you a closet pedophile by default unless you convince me otherwise?
     
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    That was about race and something you are born with which you can not change
     
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