I liked Ron Paul until I heard he supports gay marriage.

Wait.

Do you mean to tell me that Ron Paul does not support government regulating what consenting adults do?

Sounds like a good thing to me.

 

It's also none of your business.

It is dishonest to suggest that marrying animals would be allowed as well. Presenting this point of view isn't in your favor. It assists in discrediting your argument.

 

I am glad you don't support Ron Paul. If you did I would be questioning my support for him. You belong with one of the biblical candidates. The ones that do the talking but are incapable of the walking.

 

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That would be Rick Perry, who as governor of Texas brought his 'bought bills' to church for signing as a gift to his God.

Perry also forced a mandatory STD vaccinating of all Texas girls entering 6th grade, using the vaccine from Merck Pharmaceuticals which he and his staff had a huge financial interest in.

After the PTA Moms brought him to court on it, the law was repealed as unconstitutional.

 

dogs can not agree to a marriage so it can't be legal .

 

This all I needed to read to understand this is 100% troll thread.

 

Ron Paul is not really supporting gay marriage, he thinks it is a personal issue that ought to decided by the people on their own. The government should stay out of it. There are a lot more important issues to for the government to deal with than that.

 

No, they should do their job and keep this country running.

Obviously you don't. This nation is based upon the ideal of freedom for all. Not freedom for those the religious reich feels should have rights.

This nation is secular, religion has no right to the law. Like it or not discrimination based on sexuality is being weeded out of the law.

 

He is saying it should be a State decision, not a Federal one. Would you be okay with the Federal government telling the States what to do, Jedi?

 

No you see, he's not even saying that. he's just staying quiet and dismissing the topic. He just says, "let them do whatever they want". He says he can't hear it that well. lol.

His personal belief is that marriage is a religious thing no federal or state license. and he agrees with gay marriage.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fx4tGWHPFg"]Ron Paul vs Rick Santorum On Gay Marriage - YouTube[/ame]


rick is right with what he said in the video.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3J3QFb0OIg"]RON PAUL: on Gay Marriage - YouTube[/ame]


he's right about the license, who needs it?...but I don't think it's right to go to a CHURCH to get gay married. Churches should be opposed to gay marriage anyway.

 

There will likely always be 'legal' aspect related to marriage, which a/the state has an interest in.

Not every "CHURCH" has the same 'prohibitions' to gays or the marriage of the same.

Says YOU, not everyone.

 

This is why I don't go to church. I been to many so called Christian churches that are disgustingly filled with gays. Church's usually have to go by the standards of the bible..the bible clearly states homosexuality is a sin. Not something you are supposed to do. How can a church allow gay marriage? simple, it's not a christian church going by the teachings. any idiot that has read the bible understands that Jesus would never accept homosexuality. It's not rocket science.

 

Hmmm I think you and Jesus Christ have little to do with each other.

And youre against freedom for consenting adults in sexual matters.

But the greater question is.....would you be willing yourself in person to deny someone the ability to a gay marriage? Would you yourself stand there and say no?

Or do you expect someone else to deny them this?

 

You really are getting under my skin with your posts, Jedimiller.

I understand, some take this forum more serious than others...

But, I kindely want to ask you to stop with the outright stupidity in your posts. It's so outrageously obvious and manifest, that I deem it impossible for you to actually believe and think what you post on this forum.

 

If you go to a church, you WILL find 'sinners' there. BTW, there are people who are essentially 'saints', thriving outside of the church walls.

Also (and most importantly), you should weigh and tend to your own righteousness. You may not be "gay"... but I'm certain that you aren't 'sinless', nor are the people you might revere or honor as being 'holy'.

I'm not saying that doing what you believe is wrong is "okay", just trying to point out that you and a LOT of other people have FOCUSED so much (as a laser pointed) upon "homosexuality", that your attention and protests have become ludicrous, meaningless and certainly HYPOCRITICAL. If you doubt what I'm saying, then I ask you to consider the following question:

What about DIVORCE or ADULTERY?

After all, if you could find a person, congregation or family NOT affected by divorce, then you have found a rare person indeed. That is, homosexuality may indeed be sinful in the eyes of certain people... but DIVORCE is as big a problem in this world as ANY. Also, we are living in an era, where people are promoting GREED (corporate person-hood, worship/hoarding of wealth...etc.) as a good and/or essential thing; it saddens me that some of those people are sitting in MANY a church pew... thinking that Jesus wouldn't even question them about those things. Meanwhile, they arrogantly revile and persecute "homosexual" people.

 

So you aren't going to vote for him because of one of his stances?

Gay marriage is turning into one of those almost non-issues anymore.

 

And I agree with you. Reason I don't go to church it's full of sinners and fakes who only go there to pick up on a date or for the food. they really are just there to pretend to be nice and they know they have to be accepted in church. churches accept low lifes. I am more pure and more away from sin, away from church. Church is corrupt, dirty and full of people who do horrible things like practice homosexuality. They are money hungry, idiotic and corrupt.

I don't go to church for that reason. About divorce...it's acceptable when all else fails. Jesus accepts it. I'm not sinless, I never said that, but I must always stick to my morals and principals no matter what. its very easy for me to stay on line.

 

LMAO!

Don't you visit "Sin City" a couple times a year?

Talk about fakes.

"I don't go to Church because it's full of sinners."

From where I'm sitting, it seems that no Curch would accept you anyways.

 

Well... we don't agree 'exactly'. (Let's look at what you said.)

That isn't true; it's way too broad.

Some people have THAT problem, but certainly not all.

Ummm... that could be YOU on any given day (unless you are perpetually 'sinless' in each and every way, as Jesus is).

I would disagree. You are the same sinful person that the rest of human beings are. Church has its problems, but people find a lot of what's right there.

If you are human, you might as well include yourself. And you likely have more than 1 or 2 blind-spots about your perceptions of self. You/I and the rest, are all flawed morally and spiritually.

All these references to "they", includes YOU. You may not see it, but if you are HUMAN, these characteristics apply to us all. (Now, I'm talking "Christian" concepts generally here; other religions may define these things differently.)

Your "reason" seems as 'faulty' as my own human reasoning. Personally, I don't attend... because I don't want to be scrutinized or lectured for being "gay" (which I tried to change for DECADES of my life). I may eventually find a gay-friendly church, so I can concentrate upon the more spiritual things, rather than hang-out with scores of people who either fear, hate or pity my being "homosexual". I don't believe that homosexuality is wrong itself; but just as heterosexuality... can be acted upon in negative or sinful ways.

Really? In what ways would you say it is "acceptable"?

Show me please, under what conditions/circumstances He says it is 'okay'? I would say that Jesus accepts 'sinners', but not 'sin'.

But you are HUMAN, and CANNOT do that. Sorry... you fail just like the rest of human beings on this planet. You may not even realize that you fail, likely daily.

I very much doubt it. You are not Jesus Christ; and even He didn't say anything about it being "easy".

 

Luke 15:1-7

"Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them. And he spake this parable unto them, saying, What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."

Jesus disagrees with you .. I'm not surprised.

 

No surprise,...

I think it's pretty remarkable that that kind of outright psycho-talk, as expressed in the OP, mainly comes from Americans on these boards...

 

You're correct. All too often, we Americans tolerate evil talk... when we aren't the one being 'targeted'.

All I got to say to people is: What goes around, comes around.

 

You are right, but to some people, its the only important issue there is.

 

Jedi, the Bible also condemns sex outside of wedlock, as well as the drinking of alcohol and gambling, all of which you engage in on a regular basis.

How can you possibly think you have more right to attend church than a homosexual???
Jesus might not approve of homosexuality, but he wouldn't approve of your lifestyle either!