I really wish someone would press Trump on mass shootings and how he would deal with them.

instead of nit-picking and trying to make the needle represent the haystack, you need to ask yourself what kind of country you want to live in, and who, among the available candidates will get closest to that goal.
Politicians want you to make the entire issue about a single statement- playing you like a fiddle.

If you really want to change the game, you will have to start enforcing the rules- and that has to start in Congress, because they make the laws in the first place- and they set the examples for conduct, the honor, the respect for the nation and the people which all the other entities of politics will mimic.

Regardless of that, there will always be people violating the rules, some by accident, some by intent, and with both good and bad motives. There has to be a way to remove the bad apples and support the good ones. That is the only way to build anything well- but you have to understand it's impossible to please everybody, and most of the everybodies that are unhappy lack any real understanding of the issues.
Every president will be damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

You have to decide what kind of nation you want, and what kind of government can deliver it. No need to tell them what to do, 50 million people incapable of doing the job themselves are already busy with that.
Unfortunately, perfect is not on the list, so you have to take the best you can get. You also have to realize that yours is not the only voice they will hear.
The right way to do things you can't do yourself is to pick a good man, then get the hell out of the way and let him do his job. If you think you know better- run for office.

 

The US: 4% of the world's population, >40% of the world's privatly owned firearms. How many more guns do we need before they finally start keeping eveyone safe?

 

Exactly like nearly all politicians. Dumb Joe is no different.

 

LOL, hardly facts

Updated on: March 6, 2024 / 11:42 AM EST / CBS News

Tough sale when even a LEFTIST news source calls it bullshit

 

When we are willing to take out the people who make us not safe, we will be safe. Until we do that, legally and as a society- we will not be, and it will be necessary to be able to defend yourself.
Presently the threat to safety seems to be being nurtured by politicians..... the same people who should be removing it.

Guns don't pose a threat by their existence. They are tools, mechanical devices without motivation. People create threats, and they use weapons. Such people have been using weapons since the days of Neanderthals- same mentality, different weaponry. If guns weren't available, they would use rocks... and the number of rocks and other types of weapons available is unlimited. Fists and feet are used to kill more people than all the long guns combined, year after year- and every one of us carries those weapons. We're waiting for our society to mature beyond violence- but we don't yet have the kind of leadership that takes.

 

Before Trump broke it, the economy we were living in was the one Obama left him. But he had already taken the steps necessary to break it even before his inept handling of the pandemic.

 

As usual, ignoring facts Subpar research

 

You actually think the economy is better NOW than 2019, seriously? /boggle

You’re not silly enough to equate recovering all the lost jobs in 2020 to Biden “creating” jobs? Or thinking because the stock market is higher things are better?

 

The gun ownership rate in cities are very low. If I remember it’s only the 20 something percent range. That’s not the ownership rate I would like to see. Gun ownership in small towns have a higher rate yet see less violent crimes than cities. Not saying this is the reason cities have a higher violent crime rate. However, one has to wonder if it’s a contributing factor.

 

Yet congress has nothing to do with Trumps gun control. I don’t consider standing my ground nit-picking. I also am not trying to make any needle represent the hay stack. But Trump will pass gun control again. Last time he forced me along with others to destroy the property under the threat of imprisonment which some have already been put in prison for refusing. This is not the type of person I will ever support and I’m mind blown that so called 2nd amendment supporters (more like turn coat 2nd supporters) would support.

 

Off topic but I'll just mention that the FACT is that the economy was much better under Obama' second term than under Trump's only term. Trump was already on track to break it. We were better in the last 3 Obama years than we were in the first 3 Trump years. In fact, on ANY of Obama's three last years we were better off than in the best of Trump's first three.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...th-all-beat-trumps-best-year/?sh=17e622c66ba6

Trump's job was very easy even before he mishandled the pandemic. Even if we had elected an orangutan who did NOTHING we would have been better off than with Trump. He just needed to ride on top of Obama's legacy. Trump done and BROKE it.

 

That is no excuse to go against a campaign promise and attack guns when he claimed that “the war on guns would be over under him”.

he passed the worst gun control in history. It was confiscation and it was unilateral. It doesn’t get any worse than that.

 

And the majority of Democrats and Repubs disagree with you.

 

Absolutely! But that's not what we're talking about. Focus!
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?goto/post&id=1074713759#post-1074713759

 

I’m glad our founders didn’t feel that way just because they could vote for local legislatures of the states. Could you imagine if Benjamin Franklin just thought let’s elect them just get out of their way? We wouldn’t have freedom of speech or a right to bear arms. You never just get out of their way.

If our founders acted like that we would literally have the same laws as England right now. Imagine how that would be for just one minute.

 

Considering the vast majority of gun deaths are suicides and then limited to specific inner city regions, the majority of the country is quite safe from guns. And when you remove certain demographics from the equation it further brings reality into focus.

 

Wait. The current economy is BETTER than 2019? Really? What backwards fantasy are you living in? And Trump didn’t really mishandle anything. The worst areas of the country were most affected by local DEMOCRAT policy. And he was forced to follow the lead of egomaniacal health administrators. Anytime he deviated he was called racist. Remember that travel ban? Wish he ignored all of them. Our economy would have been fine without all the lockdowns which were LOCAL policies.

 

Hypocrisy

 

Absolutely! Just for starters, today we are heading UP. In 2019 we were heading DOWN. Again: off-topic.

 

I am very much a student of the constitution and our history- and a very firm believer in the second amendment. I don't know offhand how many firearms I own, but it covers the scope from .22 to .50BMG, pistols to precision rifles. I feel that the 2nd is crystal clear, in that "Shall not be infringed" has about the same wiggle room as "Thou shalt not kill". But we do live in a society of millions, with a wide range of motives and fears, and to some extent we have to provide a balance. Thus, we have stretched the latitudes of interpretation of the second to allow things like registration.

No one person is going to change this; it's mostly a reflection of what the people will demand. Not necessarily rational, not necessarily without knee-jerk political motives, but a kind of uneasy balance. The real problem is allowing distortions that serve no purpose. By that, I mean passing laws that only law-abiding citizens will obey is totally useless in combatting crime, and imposes on people who pose no threat in the first place. The right thing to do is keep focus on what is real cause, and what we do have the power to change. Trump is not the enemy- unless you are a lefty that fears/hates Trump more than anything else, and will compromise all your values because of it.

 

I didn't say you ignored them. Have you ever had a job where your boss was a micro-manager? Miserable. Impossible to be effective or efficient.
You let the person you hire do the job. If they fail or don't do it competently- you fire them. But you aren't making things better if you stand over them and nitpick their work at every step- and in the case of a president, that won't be one person, it will be millions telling them how to do their job- and they will all have different opinions.

Theres a difference between being in their face, and keeping track of what's happening. But what counts is the end goal, not every inch of every step along the way.

 

You'd rather have Biden and his gang working on gun control laws?

 

We don't even need any security of any kind at schools. That's no different than the NY Gov sending in the National Guard to monitor subways. All we need to do is keep known dangerous people who are a threat to society locked up.

 

If he said "I will do nothing!" its still better than the other parties plan of disarming law abiding citizens and making soft targets for killers. Meanwhile, politicians still enjoy the luxury of armed security.

 

My school was dangerous. 2 armed officers on campus made it safe overnight.