I wanted to be happy but it's just too depressing

Ok. Maybe I misread your post. The "Trump cult" and then the comparison to Biden threw me off, but looks like you said Biden is competing with Trump on being the most disliked politician, and I think there is a morsel of truth in it.

As I said, I hope he drops out. The country deserves a better president than those two, and almost anyone would be better.

 

This is about far far more than Trump. They have also indicted his attorneys. It is now illegal to defend a client that the political establishment has marked for extinction. This is truly the end of the rule of law and is completely unprecedented in American history.

This is all about the Supreme Court. The Democrats need that to dismantle states rights and nationalize California style governance across the nation. They want to make it so you can no longer flee Democratic hell holes because everywhere will be a Democratic hell hole.

 

Fear not, Junkieturtle. The differences between Trump and Biden are vast.

1. Biden did commit a multitude of overtly criminal acts in front of everyone, like Trump did, that has led to his many indictments.
2. Biden did not troll the right to any degree comparable to Trump's trolling the left (though Biden did, somewhat, as all politicians do of their opposition, but Trump has taken it to a new new level, with lies upon lies and more lies, the salient one being that Democrats stole the election, in short, Biden didn't declare his opposition as stealing the election, like Trump did.
3. Biden did not declare the press as 'the enemy of the people' like Trump did.
4. Biden did not threaten to use the power of the presidency to prosecute his opposition, like Trump did
5. Biden did not hide his tax returns, like Trump did
6. Biden did not obstruct the government's efforts to retrieve national defense information documents, like Trump did.
7. Biden did not contact numerous state Secretaries of State with the objective of trying to get them to overturn their election results.
8. Biden's detractors have produced zero evidence directly implicating Joie Biden on any illegal activity, like the kind of evidence we have on Trump.

Fear not, Junkiturtle, the two are not the same, and will, therefore, not 'easily wind up in the same place'.

But they will need evidence, and they have none. See, it's easy for those on the sidelines to shout 'prosecute' but a prosecutor looks at it from a very different angle, the primary one being that, without direct evidence, a prosecutor knows he will lose the case. And, on cases with such high value targets, losing is not an option, given the pithy aphorism, 'when you aim your arrow at the king, you'd better not miss', and who found this out recently? Prigozhin. No, this is not something to worry about. Oh, they will investigate, but no prosecutor will prosecute, which is why Bill Barr didn't, though he had four years to indict Hunter Biden, and he couldn't even bring himself to do it. What repubs do not understand is that, for a prosecutor, there is no brownie points for prosecuting a President's son whose life went astray because of drugs and the loss of his brother, a fact which the prosecutor knows that a powerful attorney will play that up to garner sympathy from a jury such that the prosecution will lose. THAT is why Hunter hasn't been prosecuted.

Fear not, see above.

 

So you didn't account for folks like me in your plan?

Not a very good plan. There's lots of folks like me.

 

I agree.

After his turning himself in Trump posted "Sad Day for America" and I have to say I agree with him.

It's sad that it has come to this. It is sad that we had such a corrupt individual as President and it's even sadder (after revealing his corruption for all to see) that this guy is the leading candidate to be the nominee for the Republicans.

I truly, truly, TRULY do not understand how the Republicans have fallen so far.

I voted for Reagan in 80 and in 84. It's about that time that I deconverted from Christianity and started my journey to atheism. I left the GOP because of their embracing of the religious right...but I still believed some of the things they believed in. I considered myself Libertarian (Socially very liberal, still somewhat conservative financially). So while I fully rejected the direction of the GOP on social issues I didn't think they were full on crazy.

And then came Trump. And the GOP lost their damn minds. To be fair there are some Republicans that recognized the danger of Trump and spoke out against him from the very beginning. And I believed those voices of reason would, in the end, come out on top. I was wrong.

And it it has just gotten worse from there.

So yes, it is a very sad day for America. It is sad that one of our two main political parties has gone so far off the rails as to embrace someone like Trump. It is sad that his crimes can be laid bare and they CONTINUE to embrace him. Am I happy that it seems he is finally going to face the consequences of his actions? Of course, but that doesn't make up for damage he has done and will continue to do as long as enough people continue to support him.

 

Nope. It's illegal to break the law.

 

The GOP has gone to POT*


*Party of TrumpsterFires

 

is it with you too? Sadly, I think Trump and Biden will be our choices in 2024 again

 

We now have a 77-year-old ex-president arrested and criminally charged for things he said. If you can rejoice about that you cannot be in favor of maintaining our freedom of expression USA. Look at the big picture folks.
President Putin just had his political adversary killed and President Biden just had his political adversary arrested.

 

I am asking this seriously.

Do you HONESTLY believe that this is just over what Trump said?

You've read the entire indictment and that is your take away from it? That this is simply over what Trump said???

I find it very hard to believe that anyone actually believes that.

 

So I take you are going to consider voting Republican if the Democrats nominate anyone but Joe Mansion. Call me skeptical.

 

It won't be long until a Dem gets the trump-treament. A crooked trump is still not as bad for society as honest dems.

 

You shouldn’t let people you don’t know and have never met control your emotions.

 

No, I HONESTLY believe that this is a powerful attempt by the Democrats to end democracy, which the offense you claim Trump attempted.

I won't defend Trump here, because he has acted like a spoiled child since he lost the 2020 election, but the over the top steps the Democrats are taking here are very troubling. If the Democrats weren't acting like children, they would have limited this to one very strong case. What they have is overblown series of bad indictments that undermine their credibility.

 

I'm sorry you see the administration of justice as "acting like spoiled children"

 

I'd be interested in knowing where you obtain your information. Attorneys have not been indicted simply because they have defended a political client. If you read the indictments you will see what they've been accused of and why they've been indicted.

As for the dismantling of state's rights...have a look at what's been going on in Florida and Georgia with respect to state republicans making massive changes to state laws. I don't see a dismantling of rights. Instead I see an emboldening of partisanship when dealing with state issues.

 

I saw the Deep State corruption years ago.

 

The level that Deep State has brought us to? I couldn't agree more, but you only have yourselves to blame.

Your post shows how much you really support democracy.

 

You're right - in a democracy, there are very few restrictions to running for potus. The sad part comes when people overwhelmingly vote for a person who showed the country who they were and where their priorities landed long before he ran. The sad part comes when people don't educate themselves or they choose that person simply for partisan purposes. The saddest part comes when people are shown facts and truth but choose to believe what has been openly presented to them as 'alternative facts'.

 

I could have called them much worse. They are.

 

Trust me. You'll start to feel better once they start throwing anyone that voted for Trump in jail. You guys need your hatred for humanity validated on a more broad spectrum than just Trump. You can't possibly be happy until capitalism is made a thing of the past, free choice is deemed a felony and climate change is made the new global religion. Once you guys manage to kill off a few billion people you'll start feeling better because this world is all about YOU and everyone else in just screws that up. How can you ever feel satisfied if people disagree with you or have stuff you don't have? It's no wonder this arrest hasn't satisfied your thirst for self-actualization because all it shows is that there is just so much more you need to control in this evil, hate filled world that has crushed your spirit.

 

It's not about the outcome. It's about the ideal.

Those that currently hold the ideal, [they], won't be held accountable for any negative outcomes by [they] that hold to the ideal in the future. Such accountability would require a meaningful change in the ideal. And that's not gonna happen.

Instead you'll get the "true X has never been tried" because they all want to feel like they are the pioneer of some new fancy world changing ideal.

 

The Deep State and Democrats used falsified evidence to launch an illegal investigation into Trump's campaign. But, that doesn't bother you. Does it?

 

So all you have to do is lock such people in the Gulag.

Then you can be happy .

 

The sad part is, that isn't a joke.