If gay marriage is great, okay to marry your sister?

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If you support gay marriage, would you also support marriage between brother and sister?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

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    A brother and sister should be able to have common property and protected human rights as anyone else should. If they have a physical relationship, that is their business. There is no reason or justification for calling it "marriage", which was always considered a man and woman in a potentially child-producing and society advancing unit until activists manipulated verbiage to gain advantages.
     
  2. MuchAdo

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    You seem to be posting a lot of self-righteous words on this thread. We see you saying negative things about transgender people, homosexuals, and drag queens to start with. You even go far to insult members for their beliefs because they obviously don’t jive with yours.

    The Gospel literally says “love your neighbour as yourself”. The Gospel does NOT say “love your neighbour as yourself except if they are gay, transgender, or drag queens”. Nor does it make exceptions for different political views. Quote me the verse in the bible where Jesus told us it’s okay to dump on and hate on people different from them and to preach against them which is what you seem to be all about.

    I don’t believe in God, nor do I practice any particular religion. I do think the bible has some good points.

    Here’s a few you might want to consider that just might apply to you.

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.”

    And

    “Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?”

    Aren’t so-called Christians supposed to adhere to the words in the bible and all that? When any Christian speaks out against gays, transgenders, Drag Queens and so on, in my eyes they aren’t behaving like any kind of Christian at all.
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another atheist Bible thumper quoting only words to their own desires.
     
  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is why every individual has a different take on morals......anything goes!
     
  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your morals are ever changing to suit your desires.... Apparently you believe man lays down the moral codes, not God. That is why I cannot respect you.
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it I never see atheist Bible thumpers ever quote Ephesians 5: 22-33??????
     
  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Christians are not to address behavior and virtue? Individuals are potential children of God but what we have now are individuals that "identify" by their behavior!
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so those with nothing between their ears need the Bible as a crutch?
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christ is the head of the Church? Then he needs to get his Church in order, too many Child mole stations at Churches
     
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  10. yabberefugee

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    Too many priests etc. that are wolves in sheeps clothing. You need to keep your pack out of the Church! We encounter atheist Bible thumpers on this very thread!
     
  11. FreshAir

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    so God can't keep the wolves out of his Church that he is the head of, so much for all powerful, all knowing
     
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  12. MuchAdo

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    There you go again.

    There you go again.

    There you again.

    Why don’t you address how as a supposed non-atheist you can constantly rain down hate on gays, transgenders, Drag Queens when the bible literally preaches love thy neighbour. You sure as hell seem to hate a lot of your neighbours to an unGodly degree.

    Peace out and stop using religion to preach hate. Bye now.

    I don’t need God or the bible to accept people who embrace a different lifestyle.
     
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  13. LiveUninhibited

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    The "morals" described in the bible are not moral at all and only reflect unsophisticated bronze age ideals. Golden rule was an improvement, but not the highest level or morality. There is a difference between justifying self-interest and actual logical moral principles.
     
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    I just said it was an evolutionary trait where do you get that is man laying down moral codes? Just because I don't hold on to 19th century morality doesn't mean that I change it to suit my desires I never lived in the 19th century I couldn't have changed since then.
     
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    There's no reason to assume that secular morals must change. The foundation of not doing harm to other people doesn't change. People rationalize things, and religious people do that too. God speaks to them and tells them their ****ed up stuff is okay, they say. Rationalization isn't morality. It's just an excuse either way. And again, there is no evidence there is a god.
     
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    Here's your problem......you like to thump others over the head with the Bible because you think it makes you look cute. If you really studied, you'd know about Jesus' parable of the :"wheat and the tares", but you don't. It would give you a little understanding but you don't want that. Go ahead accuse God, others have been doing it since they were created.
     
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    There you go again....."hate" is the word of the day.Speaking out about perverse behavior is not hating people. The problem is, people want to be identified by their behavior. They want to shout it out from the rooftops to invite others to join in! Ever here of "Gay Pride"? That's a very good example. There is no pride in partaking in sodomy. Keep it in the bedroom. It is not a public virtue. As for Drag Queens they just like to confuse the genders. Poor souls. Transgenders? It's all about their behavior. Men are from Mars Women are from Venus you pull transgender from Uranus.
     
  18. FreshAir

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    nope, you just don't like people that disagree with your religion, hint, you want to push your religion in government... expect push back

    you're the one posting that God is the Head of the Church, thus he is responsible for what happens in the Church, right? and that Jesus is God

    so I just said God needs to up his game if true.... too many child molesting preachers in the church
     
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  19. yabberefugee

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    Your logic I suppose.
     
  20. FreshAir

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    even the Bible says if God asks you to kill your children, do it, as it's a loyalty test
     
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    Not all gay people want to ‘shout it from the roof tops’. Why is it ok for you to make all sorts of negative statements about gay people, transgendered people, and Drag Queens. You come on to threads and ‘shout’ it using your computer which is in itself an invitation for others to join in. Is there something wrong of being proud of who you are? Gay pride isn’t just about having sex, it’s much more than that. Gay pride is promoting dignity, equality, self-affirmation and increased visibility.

    Can you not entertain how intolerant you are. You can’t even stand the fact that gay people are out there saying and being proud that they are gay. You do understand that there are gay women as well, yet you only refer to ‘sodomy’. You do know that heterosexual couples enjoy anal sex as well don’t you?

    Why don’t you keep your religious ideas in church then, the stuff you spout isn’t much of a public virtue either.

    As far as Drag Queens go, have you ever actually been to Drag Queen story hour? They literally read stories to children about accepting each other — there is no focus on gender, homosexuality, or dressing up in women’s clothes. If you think a man in women’s clothes reading a story book to children is going to have any effect on them whatsoever, well then, you need to rise out of that hole of ignorance.

    My nephew is a transgender male and no it’s not all about behaviour. It’s about living your life as the person you want to be.

    Stop using religion to flog your intolerance on the rest of the world and for you to do so and then complain about gay people saying publicly they are gay is nothing but hypocritical.
     
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    Live your life.
     
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    Show me once where I have advocated that. You push your secular faith in government. You would just prefer Christians remained silent. Couldn't find the parable Jesus taught about the "wheat and the tares" could you? You don't care. You just want to be cute! That is why you blame God for the child molesters in the Catholic Religion. Sounds cute. Your types can even infiltrate Religions but you'll never touch faith or the Body of Christ. There will be a day when the wheat is separated from the tares and will be thrown in the fire. There......I helped you.
     
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    so you are against using government to push religion then? if so, we agree
     

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