If you don't want a baby, get your tubes tied.

I've always thought that if men were subject to any of the many possible complications that come with pregnancy (sickness, diabetes, Preeclampsia,High Blood Pressure, anemia, infections ... Death) that there would not be a viable anti-abortion movement in this, or any, country.

 

Well, there isn't really, most Americans want abortion legal whether they approve of it or not..

And, I've always said, if men got pregnant there'd be free abortion clinics in every hardware store....

 

Fox, it is on you to be clear when you post, I simply replied. I am having doubts about your ability to speak for women.

Now you hurt my feelings, my mother said I was special. Grandma gave me special kisses. What am I going to do now?

 

Most of those Americans do not realize what that "blob of tissue" in there actually looks like.

Would that be by the plungers or the aisle with carpet cleaning vacuums?

 

It's about having the right to choose what to do with their own body that's the way it should be that's the way it will always be

 

I would suspect that most abortions are not a solitary decision. The path to the clinic is with loved ones, friends or family. Sure the woman signs the dotted line but much more goes into it long before the procedure.

Just my special thoughts about humanity.

 

You do realize that there are about the same number of males as there are females in the pro-life camp? In fact female pro-lifers can be some of the most strongly outspoken opponents of abortion.


from a Gallop poll in the U.S.

 

Repub/Conservatives have abortions, too, so quit with the political crap about liberals.



So you buy a car and it turns out to be a lemon...it costs you money to keep repairing it, more than it's worth but YOU keep it anyway with some idiotic idea that you MUST live with EVERY consequence of your actions.....while COMMON SENSE would say, DO something about the problem.

That's what women do if they accidently become pregnant, they DO something about it........YOU want to wallow in our mistakes and that's fine for you but don't expect others to.....

 

closing the barn door after the horse got out doesn't work
Keep the door closed and the horse doesn't get out in the first place.

 

How simplistic of you.....human beings, NORMAL human beings, haven't kept the door closed for 10,000 years.........how do you intend to change human nature?

 

Wow, such a wonderful advocate. The depth.......what if the woman seeks mutual consent between her and her partner for or against? You know, does not want to make the decision alone or not at all?

Have a good night.

 

there's a difference between being ignorant and choosing to ignore the obvious, as you clearly demonstrate

 

No, many people do "keep the barn door closed". Its called being responsible. For those that are irresponsible, abortion is the cowards way out.

 

No, studies show the majority of people, 90-95%, have premarital sex. Consensual sex is natural and a matter of personal, private choice, and not your business!

It is irresponsible to bring children into the world that you are unable to care for.

 

What "obvious" am I ignoring?

I don't ignore human nature like you do. YOU are ignoring the obvious, fact that humans , even YOU, make mistakes and that won't change.
And I see you couldn't answer the question..............how do you intend to change human nature?

 

Some people have sex and some don't, but most NORMAL people do.......let's get rid of the silly barn door analogy because what it is , is a thin cover up for saying women should be punished for having sex as ALL Anti-Choicers eventually come down to when all their other silly arguments are ground to dust.

So you think 1 woman in 4 is a coward...OK.....but that is only an opinion and a silly one.........and only has meaning in your life, NO one else's.

YOU think women should be punished for having sex by spending 9 months being pregnant, having their body harmed permanently , suffer physical pain, suffer financial loss, possible job loss, career setbacks , education loss, so YOU don't think they're cowards ???

THAT is an argument against abortion ? Hardly...

Could you please explain why your opinion should have anything to do with anyone else???

 

First you bring up men and now homosexuality ...and you keep bringing them up ..neither has to do with the topic.......hmmmmm.....And only you could associate abortion with homosexuality

How did I "target" men ?

By suggesting THEY do something about sex ?

Did that insult your idea that women MUST be the only responsible party ?


You never addressed men getting THEIR "tubes" tied as being responsible. YOU take men completely out of the equation!!!


By "human nature I mean that most NORMAL humans are sexual creatures with sex drives( maybe you can't understand that)....and they have been since they first existed, it's in their nature...they will have sex and just saying "stop it" is pretty stupid when the facts show humans aren't about to stop doing something that is built in to their nature.

..............how do you intend to change human nature?

 

there's more to Man than their sex drives. What truly separates us from the animals is the ability to resist animal urges. If you cannot resisit the urge, then you are no better than the gopher or mouse.
You are the one that says men have no say. You are the one taking them out of the loop, that we force women to do things they don't want to do. How is that even possible without breaking several laws. As far as rape goes, does it count as rape when a woman forces herself on a man? How about a adult woman forcing herself on 13 year olds. The law doesn't stop that from happening, it only punishes after the fact. To the truly criminal, laws are irrelevant
By excluding men from the process, you are placing men at a lower level than woman, but you declare there should be equality. I get it, your definition of equality, ya mean, where the woman calls all of the shots and men must remain silent...gotcha