I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

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    "Hearing the Fetal Heartbeat. Doctors use several different methods to listen to the fetal heartbeat. About 3 weeks, one day after fertilization, when the heart first begins to beat, the sound of the little heart is too soft to hear. Very soon thereafter, they can see the motion using ultrasound technology.

    4 This folding forms the chest and abdominal cavities and incorporates a portion of the yolk sac which becomes the lining of the digestive and respiratory tracts.5 Thus, development of the digestive system is underway just 4 weeks after fertilization.6

    7 These buds are the first visible indication of the developing arms and legs.8Skeletal muscles eventually enable you to move your body."
    http://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php

    Babies do have a heart beat at 3 weeks old. It is life being created and it is murder to kill said life thus you support murder. Unless the mother's life is in trouble or she was raped she should not have an abortion. It should be against the law. Woman need to stop having unsafe sex.
     
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    Sure there was no Russian campaign as all of our intelligence agencies are lying to us an those Russians that had been indicted by grand juries under Mueller so far are innocent.

    As I already stated useful idiots term seem off hand to be more fitting to apply to some Trump supporters
     
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    8 weeks buddy

    http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/when-can-you-hear-the-baby's-heartbeat.html
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YUP, what some people don't realize is that if one segment of the population loses the RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BODY , which is what banning abortion does, then it opens the gate for other "undesirable" segments to lose their rights.

    Who would be next? Gays? Trans? Minorities? It is a VERY real slippery slope...



    You are not only wrong about fetal heartbeat ( and have been proven wrong) that has absolutely nothing to do with the post of mine you quoted.



    Whether true or not it is totally irrelevant.



    NO, abortion is not looked at as murder, it is a legal medical procedure.




    No, she doesn't.....no one needs to stop having sex because YOU think they should...

    Have you ever heard of Freedom and Liberty? What this country stands for??? You get them and so do women....although you are free to quit having sex if you choose to :)
     
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    :) It was a conservative court at the time of RvW :) just sayin'....

    AND just because Trump wants to load the court with conservatives doesn't mean there will be a reason to overturn RvW...see, ya need a reason, an argument, FACTS...and in almost 50 years Repubs haven't come up with any....and they won't because being against abortion gets them votes...
     
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    So what? They still don't have rights....and even if they were given rights they would still have the same restrictions we all have :)
     
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    Of course the Russians did not try to help Trump get elected.


     
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    Footnote Within hours repeat hours of Trump calling upon the Russians in public to try to find some of Clinton email her email servers was under attacked by the Russians.

     
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    I posted evidence so how am I wrong? They say you can barely hear the heat beat at 3 weeks old but it is there and the baby is developing it's body parts meaning it is a living breathing human being. It's life in creation. Who are we to play God with someone's life?
     
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    Yes we already know. A staffer warned Obama before the election and was ordered to stand down so Democrats were to concerned about it.

    Crowdstrike who investigated the servers is owned by a Russian so is that not Russian collusion on the Democrats part?
     
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    I posted evidence too. Yours is nonsense
     
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    Yep. Perfectly ok
     
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    No argument. Its a baby or a living breathing human being or gods little gift if you like. Call it whatever you like. I support it
     
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    Can you at least try to reply with a relevant answer? I asked Sak how he would investigate for pregnancies, and you respond with a baby has a heartbeat at 3 weeks; no ****- it’s heart is already supposed to be beating when it came out of the womb, so I would hope it still would after 3 weeks.

    None of you will answer directly because you know that you can’t investigate, and therefore, the whole point of an abortion isn’t to stop abortions but give yourself a sense of moral superiority.

    And I don’t support murdering babies. I support the removal of clusters of cells within a woman’s womb before the end of the 1st trimester, just as I would a tumor, or a destroyed liver.
     
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    Yes , who are "we" to play god with a woman's life?

    BTW, your "evidence" proves nothing...women still have the right to their own bodies, they are not slaves owned by others.

    A human fetus is human (adjective), it is NOT a human (noun) as in "" legal person"".



    IF the fetus had rights it would also have the same restrictions we all have and you CANNOT address that :)
     
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    So don't mow your lawn or eat !!! Can't murder those plants and animals that need oxygen !!!
    I guess you're against all wars and executing criminals, too?

    Funny, righties say it's lefties who are Pro-Choice but against executions...

    And, what has your post got to do with abortion????
     
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    There are no "pro-Abortion" people, there ARE people who believe women have a right to their own bodies (Pro-Choice) and those that don't (Anti-Choicers).


    I can't understand having such a low opinion of women that they'd take away their rights and make slaves out of them...


    BTW, IF IT'S MURDER, WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE?


    ...and how about that post # 81 :)
     
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    And how will that help? Are you going to,tie women into abusive relationships?
     
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    Soooooo if tomorrow you pick up a raging case of crabs then you would be fine with the clinic posting that on you tube?
     
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    Including body modifications

    Even if you get an STD the government has to get your permission.
     
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    Which is BS they need a national STI registery just like sex offenders to protect the public.
     
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    There is nothing you can say or do to change their mind. Left wingers don't understand that within the first 4 weeks a living breathing thing is developing a heart beat, creating it's limbs and body parts and growing into a human baby. They use the excuse it should be the woman's right as a way to murder the innocent child of God but who are they to play God with someone else's life? Any woman who was not raped and her life is not in danger should have no reason to have an abortion unless she is just a selfish person who loves to have unsafe sex and only cares about herself. These people are sad. Killing babies is sad. When that life is created in the womb it is sad that anyone would want to kill it.
     
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    Really? Link please I would like to see the names on that list
     
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    Seven billion people on this planet

    God must be pretty peeved about how we are wrecking it
     
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    I want to end all abortions and would be fine with RoevsWade being removed. A cluster of cells that has not formed into anything is far different then a living breathing thing at 3 weeks old that is starting to develop a heart beat and limbs/body parts. I am glad you do not support murder of babies at 3 weeks old.
     

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