evidence plenty has been shown, and the people who cling to the 19 suicidal hijackers story will refuse to see it.
You have to love these people. They see what they want to see. It has to be a vast government conspiracy. It wasn't 19 hijackers. I really love the poplar mechanics one. They shot down everything. But no the truthers came up with new theories.
Evidence that has been shot down by people who know what they are talking about. What sounds more likey here, a government conspiracy or 19 highjackers. Not to mentation that has been 13 years since 9/11. If the government was behind it, someone would have said something at this point.
I have heard this SOOOO many times, and the fact is, that if you have physical evidence that points to a conspiracy, it is only incredulity that supports the "somebody would have talked by now" position.
Hi, G-bob, you seem to be gone a couple of days. Great to have you back. Maybe now you can address the questions clearly linked to in this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=372257&p=1064247466#post1064247466 One of them being giving us the 5 sources Hannibal asked for, going on twos weeks ago: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=372257&p=1064235430#post1064235430 Links for your convenience. And thank you in advance.
And your physical evidence has been shot down so many times over the last 13 years. - - - Updated - - - Good luck. You're going to be waiting tell your turn to bones. - - - Updated - - - You have no idea how the government works do you?
Was I specifying the "GOVERNMENT" what I know about this is that some entity that is NOT radical Arab Muslims, perpetrated the events of 9/11/2001 as a FALSE FLAG. now there are secret societies in this world, things that JFK warned us about and note that even President Wilson said "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Need I say more?
Not on the subject of a "secret society", that's "NOT radical muslims" perpetrating a so called false flag. We know where that's going(Hint: the racist's favorite scapegoat who survived the Holocaust). But you could say more about these questions put to you here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=372257&p=1064266583#post1064266583 and here http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=372257&p=1064266440#post1064266440 Thank you.
To address this issue, when have I ever consented to speculate about WHO done it? the important issue here is to properly define what happened and we can discuss suspects later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpiVv8tQdmY Have a link, I realize its not exactly what you were looking for, but it contains the INFORMATION and presentations by all of the major players in the movement, Johnathan Cole, David Chandler ..... ( etc .... )
I'm asking for the papers these engineers published. Are they all illiterate frauds, or are truthers too impotent to produce evidence?
The INFORMATION comes in a form that you personally don't like, OK, so be it, however the INFORMATION is there if you would but review the Toronto hearings data.
Wrong. Engineers, architects and scientists present their information in published, peer reviewed papers and documents, not YouTube videos. Do you seriously mean that, of the thousands of petition signers, NOT A SINGLE ONE HAS PUBLISHED A SINGLE PAPER WITH THEIR FINDINGS?? Do you think they just don't believe it themselves, or is their entire level of commitment writing their name? ... And what of Mackey?
its not for lack of trying, the individuals ( Richard Gage included ) have tried to get papers published in the journals of various institutions, like the school Richard graduated from, but these mainstream publications consider this material too controversial and therefore refuse to publish. My take on all this is that the bits published on the web for more general review ( not just "peer review" ) is totally effective in telling the bit that needs to be told. WHY should it be that the dissemination of INFO be confined to what institutions will consent to publish? any number of radical authors throughout history have had to go "vanity press" to get their stuff printed. The web is the perfect place for this sort of expression. Bottom line here, have you reviewed any of the INFORMATION presented at the Toronto Hearings and if so, do you have an opinion on it?
There is a book that is the text of the Toronto Hearings, however if you don't want to buy the book, the videos are available for free. did you even look at the INFORMATION or are you stubbornly holding on to published papers or nothing? Will you look at the INFORMATION?
I looked. Watched the whole thing, read the transcripts. I'm asking you if ANY of these two thousand plus have taken the time to present their case to the actual engineering and scientific world? It seems the answer is 'no'. Which leads me to believe they don't believe what Gage so adamantly claims they do. And once again ... why do you suppose they list a cartoon character among their most esteemed structural engineers?
First of all, the presentation of the Toronto hearings is a broadcast to the entire world, if the engineering community needs an engraved invitation in order to respond to an issue, then I see that there is something very wrong with this picture. also please provide a link to the AE911truth site were they "list a cartoon character among their most esteemed structural engineers" Where is it?
Where are their published papers, bob? What have they presented to the engineering community to get this matter resolved? When will this petition be presented and to whom? Can you answer any of these without trying to change the subject again?
You side-stepped the issue with calling out AE911TRUTH on that cartoon character issue. First of all, we have gone over this "published papers" bit in that the total of the data from the Toronto hearings constitutes the "paper" and if the world, be it any given individual PHD somebody, or the friendly local high school drop-out .... whatever .... chooses to comment ..... its open season on discussion. as to when & where the AE911TRUTH petition will be presented, Really I'm not sure and that is very much THEIR business, I'm not an agent of AE911TRUTH and so I'll not even try to address that one. The fact is that you alleged that AE911TRUTH was so gullible as to allow a cartoon character name to be added to their list of Architects/Engineers .... however I see no such name when I check the web-page for AE911TRUTH. What do you have?
