I'm Amazed !

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  1. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    So very sad and telling.

    Of "two thousand architects and engineers", not a single one has taken any initiative to make their findings known, nor are there any plans to do anything (other than line Gage's pockets) with the 'petition'.
     
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    I submit to this forum that "not a single one has taken any initiative to make their findings known" is total FRAUD. The fact is that these people have gone to great lengths ( see the Toronto hearings ) to make their views known to the entire world. Not my fault you are stuck on old forms of "academic review" that simply are not necessary in the 21rst century.

    BTW: what ever happened to that cartoon character allegation?
     
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    Academic review is necessary in the real world.

    Looks like someone informed Gage about his highly respected engineer. He's been removed.... after nearly five years. lol
     
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    How would you know "nearly five years" unless you check the AE911TRUTH site regularly(?)

    The system is clearly broken as evidenced by the circus that was the official show-trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, clearly there is something very wrong in AMERICA right now.

    The INFORMATION that the crew from AE911TRUTH has published by way of their web-page, the Toronto hearings, and other bits is publicly available and there is public debate on the subject, if some of the PHD types who would have weighed in on the subject if it were published in a mainstream scientific journal wanted to do so with the info published in the form that it is, they are free to do so, what is stopping them?
    The presentations by Richard Gage & any other 9/11 pundit do NOT have to be "truther" only love-fests, in fact I would welcome any & all dissenting voices, I think it would be healthy for the movement and for people in general to have the sort of interaction were the loyal opposition is heard from.
     
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    To sum up: NONE of the petitioners has had the professional fortitude to back up their claims with evidence, nor is there any known plan to actually SUBMIT said petition to any entity.

    It's simply a scheme to milk money out from the ignorant.
     
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    and I submit to this forum that the above is total FRAUD.
    the fact of the Toronto hearings alone proves that the people involved in this movement intend to place the INFORMATION in public view.
    what more do you want? if some PHD type who didn't get an engraved invitation to the party is not happy, that is NOT my problem!
     
  7. Hannibal

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    The so-called 'Toronto Hearings' were a glorified and not very well done version of an old fashioned tent-revival.
    Gather the faithful in one place (Toronto? Really?) Charge them a fee to get in and preach to them. Pass the plate, sell the DVDs, promise them anything and cash the checks.

    Just another cult, paying the leaders to feed them paranoia.

    Tell me this, bob: What has changed since these hearings? It's been three years ... what new ground has been covered? How many new engineers are on board and WHAT have they accomplished?
     
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    To quote the late great George Carlin
    " they aren't going to investigate themselves"
    referring of course to the Congress of this U.S of A
    We need to enlighten as many people as possible so as to get the court of public opinion on-board with this. Its NOT a matter of recruiting people to a cult, its a matter of waking people up to the TRUTH. The fact is that the events of 9/11/2001 constitute a false flag operation and the PEOPLE, that is the workers & taxpayers & citizens of the world must not acquiesce to criminal actions of a few power mad psychos who have managed to get themselves "elected" but are unfit for service in any capacity on the public payroll.
     
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    Since you seem to have missed the questions, I'll ask again:

    What has changed since these hearings?
    It's been three years ... what new ground has been covered?
    How many new engineers are on board and WHAT have they accomplished?
     
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    Did you know that Geraldo Rivera had an engineer from AE911TRUTH on his TV show and they actually talked about WTC7 without invoking trash talk about tin-foil-hats! also if you were listening to Armstrong & Getty this morning at near the close of the show, they mentioned WTC7.
    The court of public opinion may yet weigh in on this one. I for one am optimistic.

    as for the new ground covered, the data that has already been gathered is sufficient to make a case that 9/11/2001 was an inside job, however I don't believe its the end for any new information to show up, some bits that have yet to be explored are computer models of the towers, computer models of any of the airliners allegedly crashed that day.
    and of course these would have to be OPEN SOURCE computer models, the sleezy tricks by the NIST should have gotten some people busted and incarcerated for their idiocy.... but what to do, lets do what we can with what we have, when life hands you lemons ....... ( oh well .... )
     
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    What 'sleazy tricks' by the NIST?....be specific...
     
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    They classified SECRET the source data for their "simulation" of WTC7 and cited as a reason that to release the data would endanger public safety! totally MAD!
     
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    here's a clue for ya,free of charge...just because YOU don't agree with it,that doesn't make it 'sleazy'
     
  14. Hannibal

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    ... you know, for awhile I thought you were serious. Invoking Geraldo as a credible engineering source, though ... your credibility just crashed. I'm convinced you don't believe a single word you type.

    Congrats. You had me going. For a while.
     
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    you have to disagree ALL the time?
    what? I'm not citing Geraldo as an engineering source but rather as a sign that the mainstream media is finally producing something other than the "tin foil hat" portrayal of the Truth Seeking Community.

    is TRUTH stranger?
     
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    It gets even funnier when you invoke Geraldo as 'mainstream media'.

    Thanks, bob. I get the joke.
     
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    'Al Capone's vaults'......there's your 'mainstream media'.....:cowtwo:
     
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    and exactly what point in the video do you disagree with?
    Can you be specific?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Everything from 0:00 to 12:10.......
     
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    Including the bits that explain how the official story of "FLT175" violates the laws of physics....(?)
     
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    Was I unclear on what part of the video I disagreed with?

    TOTAL fantasy,no 'laws of physics' were violated
     
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    I do note that when you got cornered with the 'Geraldo' nonsense, you immediately changed the topic.

    Why the running away, bob?
     
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    all there is..... is your opinion of what constitutes proper publicity as opposed to not proper publicity. and in this case I really do NOT care at all what you think on this subject its publicity and it stimulates discussion about the topic.

    There are all sorts of features of 9/11/2001 that simply may as well be displaying a huge neon sign stating THIS IS A SCAM!

    You can believe as you will ..... its a free country ( so far...... )

    have a nice day

    : )
     

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