I'm getting my Moderna vax this week, and I thank OBAMA

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Well, MPO, it was crowd control and a lie.. As I have stated before, after a 20+ day of Chiner and the WHO withholding very critical data on transmission characteristics the planet was bones anyway.. So what point was there in scaring the the public with doomsday reports.. Use common sense here and look around a how over the top frightened people we see here on PF alone.. Now multiply that sort of over the top fear across the country!

    Besides, the press could have given you all you needed to know, clearly the left and posters like yourself rely heavily on their reports every day here on PF, so it stems to reason you and all the other people vested in MSM could have should have been ahead of the curve on all of this.. Bare in mind, after the 20 days of international travel and the head start this virus had by that alone, personal attention would have been everyone's best defense and no country or leader warned their people of the magnitude of this on Dec 2019 or in Feb 20 2020..

    Maybe we or someone should have taken Taiwan's finding seriously, most of all Xi the magnificent!
     
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    Never said anything about it.. Real or Not it's a personal choice.. But I will add, if it's so great why are we still being advised to mask up, even go as far as two mask, continue social distancing and refrain from large group events..
     
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    Quote; Then yes in 2007 the Democrats took back the Congress and control of the government with a lame duck President. A YEAR before the recession started. As the economy slowed they did nothing and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush.

    As the economy slowed they did nothing and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush.
    As the economy slowed they did nothing and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush.
    As the economy slowed they did nothing and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush.
    As the economy slowed they did nothing and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush.


    MANURE, MANURE, MORE MANURE!

    1. ''As the economy slowed they did nothing''

    WFT! NBER designated DEC 2007 as the PEAK, (highest point of an economic cycle), AND in an effort to boost the economy, or to avert a recession, a stimulus package was passed by Congress in JAN 2008, thus, 1 month after a peak.

    2. ''and were certainly not taking their orders from Bush''

    In other words, Bush never wanted to stimulate his economy/never wanted to avert a recession, and Congress handed him a $160 billion stimulus package/checks, thus, you are correct.

    Last, in reference to Bush's lowering the deficit from $413 billion to $161B, here's another indisputable fact you should repeat a thousand times;

    In today's dollars;

    FY2001 SURPLUS; $190B
    FY2004 DEFICIT; $575B

    A difference of $765B

    Thus, over 3 years, and in today's dollars, Bush increased the deficit from a $190B Surplus to a $575B Deficit

    https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

    CONCLUSION; Shut the **** up!
     
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    Scaring the public? Trump must think his supporters are snowflakes if that is what you think. I disagree though. After telling middle america that gangs of rapists from Mexico will be attacking thier neighborhoods your theory does not seem consistent with Trump's history.

    That aside, the point of telling the truth is so Americans could make educated decisions about the pandemic instead of thinking it was nothing to worry about.

    I am not a leftist. I can't speak for other leftists. I don't rely on leftist news.

    What do your false labels have to do with Trump lying to america about the virus?

    Maybe Trump should have not lied to the American people about how dangerous the pandemic was.
     
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    Just wait til the real crying begins when the leftists here all whine and complain about their skin turning orange cause they got Trump DNA from the vaccine. Should help those without, to grow a set of alpha balls.
     
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    You don't think being honest with the public about the threat was a better idea?
     
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    There is nothing funny, wild, or unfactual about the Obama administration funding the illegal research techniques and facility in Wuhan.
     
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    Sure I do, do you? I don't believe I have seen any post here of your condemning the Chiners lies.. Then again if honesty was really, I MEAN really important to you, you'd clearly have created at least 500 post over the last year complaining about Chiner and WHO not warning the world about Taiwan's finding in Dec 2019..

    Then again considering almost all your posts are simply talking points cut and pasted from Trump hating MSM, so in your defense you clearly weren't properly advice of that..
     
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    Clearly you haven't followed this forum and those deathly frightened and still are! Is that the folks you wanted told desperate news :) Again, if the MSM and DNC hadn't had a "Get rid of Trump" agenda you and every American would have been clued to it's danger, wouldn't you think? Might ask yourself and your PALS why their precious Media darlings left them all in the dark ;)

    Again, you needed Truth from Trump but received lies from ground zero, CHINER. You also were not advised by the MSM while the virus spread around the world twenty days in Feb..

    Same thing your rhetoric accomplishes only mine speaks to truth about Chiner, Who and the Taiwan warning.. You choose to blame a person that had bad information, the same information the entire planets and leader were told and suffered greatly from..

    Misguided loyalty and Chiner lies was the hand every Leader was dealt.. Only here in the U.S. American and Trump didn't have any help from the hating DNC, media or the lying WHO.. All he had was agenda driven backstabbers and they let half a million Americans die to topple one man...

    Maybe the Chiners and the WHO, the media and the DNC should have informed them of the Taiwan findings/warning in December..
     
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    Never seen anyone deathly frightened of the virus on this forum. Can give an example?

    Trump lying to America about how dangerous the virus was has nothing to do with media on the right or left.


    Yes. America needed our President to be truthful in regards to how dangerous the virus was.

    His lies have nothing to do with China.

    Trump didn't have bad information. He had good information and chose to lie about it.



    Trump knew the virus was dangerous and he chose to lie to America. This has nothing to do with the DNC.



    Maybe Trump should have not lied to america when he knew how dangerous the virus was.
     
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    GDP peaked the 4th quarter of 2006 and held until the third quarter and then began to fall as they began announcing their desires for more taxes and more regulations on business and the economy. And it wasn't until 2008 they passed a meager trickle up stimulus which of course did not work.

    OMB

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    Yes as I said the Rep's made two mistakes, the prebate which did nothing and then instead of fully implimenting the tax rate cuts passing them is as a long phase it. But they correct that in 2003 and see how they brought the deficit back down to the paltry $161B heading to surplus again. The previous surplus in part due to tax rate cuts by a Republican congress. And between 2007 and 2009 the Democrats increased the deficit almost NINE TIMES.

    There is a thread going about the proposed tax rate cuts coming up, continue there and let's get this thread back on track here.
     
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    Oh my, now that takes some denial to post :)

    And that takes some serious Chiner, MSM and DNC loyalty to claim that considering how many times the e-mail from Taiwan to Chiner/Who has been posted here.. Damnnnnnnnnnn!

    And more defense of Chiner/WHO.. Even if Trump had panic the U.S. after Feb 20th it would have done nothing to lessen the outcome of COVID-19 after being allowed to infect a planet.. What you needed was for Chiner, WHO and the MSM to report the finding of the Taiwan's in December. BETTER yet Chiner to stop all international travel starting in Dec when they were informed of Human to human transmission..

    And Chiners/WHO lies stated the virus had no human to human transmission, while knowing all along it did via Taiwan's report in December 2019.. ALL HAIL XI the great giver of truth and facts.. Bad Donny and every other country and leaders for not knowing the XI and the WHO liars..

    More nonsense, if he didn't have bad info then niether did all the other countries and leaders on planet earth! Funny how every country and their leaders ALL followed the same suit as Trump and not one Media source other then Taiwan got it right but was discredited by both XI and the WHO that twenty days latter had to finally state the obvious..
    To little to late! Chiner and the WHO could have slowed the spread dramatically if they would have took Taiwan seriously and stopped travel in and out of Chiners in Dec 2019..

    Maybe at some point in all this you might recognize the importance in CONTROLLING the spread of a virus as soon as possible at the epicenter and the WORSE thing to do with an infectious virus is allow it's HOSTS to travel thru AIRPORTS in little winged incubation twinkies and then turned loose in different airports around the planet..

    But I have my doubt you will :(
     
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    So you can't give an example. Noted.

    Their is an email that made Trump lie to America about how dangerous the virus is? Can you link it?

    What I needed was for Trump not to lie about how dangerous the virus was.


    Trump knew the virus was dangerous when he lied about said danger so your point is moot.



    When Trump lied to America about how dangerous the virus was he had information on how dangerous the virus was.

    I agree that controlling the virus early on is important. That is why I am upset Trump lied to America about how dangerous the virus was.
     
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    If you can't find a source, ekk what am I thinking? Never mind you keep blaming Trump, it's better that way and far less work for me..
    Clearly you don't, need a source? Reread all your post in the thread :)

    All hail honest XI... Friend to planet earth..
     
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    You expect me to find sources for your ascersions? Ludicrous.

    I do blame Trump for lying to america about how dangerous the virus was.

    I read through this whole thread again and didn't see anyone terrified of the virus.
     
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    At this point NO, lmao I don't!!

    Funny! You read thru the whole thread, well hell that's giving it a go huh? You needed to start last year or at least paid attention..

    Ima put you in the closet for awhile, I've had way to much XI praise for a week or so..

    ALL HAIL HONEST XI, friend to planet earth...
     
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    Yea, so why has Biden been hyping it for almost 6 months now?
     
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    Trump said what WHO and the experts were saying and as they learned more he spoke more of the dangers. Remember it was HE who declared the national emergency and HE banned travel from other countries, that sure showed me there was danger did it somehow escape you? And some experts were saying it was so dangerous that it would be 3 - 5 years before a vaccine and 2,500,00 deaths in the US before the end of 2020. To claim we all weren't aware of the danger is partisan nonsense. I was sick last February and was on the phone with my doctor for several days reporting my symptoms because of my fear of COVID.
     
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    Please point out where I praised Xi.
     
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    Trump was aware of the danger as he was recorded telling Woodward about it BEFORE continuing to lie to the American people.
     
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    I got both shots of Pfizer about a month ago and I've been trying to get people to say that they've taken the TRUMP vaccine whether it was Pfizer, Moderna or J&J..... for the simple reason that Trump got all three of these in and on the shelves in warp speed. No other sitting potus (especially the feeble-lame sleepy joe) could have ever come close in getting the scientists to produce and deliver such a vaccine (any vaccine) in such record time. All thanks for the COVID vaccine go to the greatest American president that you see in my Avatar.
     
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    This is partison speculation.
     
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    QUESTION; When will a Covid19 vaccine be avalaible?

    Expert # 1; It could take 5 years
    Expert # 2; It could take 3 - 5 years
    Expert # 3; At least 18 months

    NOTE; Prior to announcing early results of a Phase 1 Clinical Trial, any predictions about when a vaccine could be made available..........IS A SHOT IN THE DARK.

    Mr. Bluesguy, should we criticize the experts who've made predictions prior to the initial results of Moderna's Phase 1 Clinical Trial?

    Read the following;

    May 18, 2020

    Early results from Moderna vaccine trial show participants developed antibodies against corononavirus

    Study subjects who received Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine had positive early results, according to the biotech company, which partnered with the National Institutes of Health to develop the vaccine.

    If future studies go well, the company's vaccine could be available to the public as early as January, Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna's chief medical officer, told CNN.

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    Fauci Voices Cautious Optimism About Moderna Vaccine, Calling Trial 'Quite Promising'

    May 22, 2020


    Dr. Anthony Fauci expressed "cautious optimism" Friday about the initial results from a coronavirus vaccine trial — which were widely celebrated this week — and said it remains "conceivable" that a vaccine for the deadly pathogen could be available by the end of the year.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...t-moderna-vaccine-calling-trial-quite-promisi

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    COULD BE AVAILABLE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.........If Phase 2 and 3 results are highly favorable
     
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    It sure is easy to give away someone else's money.
     
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    I know, right? Trump didn't miss a beat giving our tax money to farmers.

    It is almost as if all Americans agree with socialism; they just don't agree on who should be gifted our money.
     

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