I'm Pro-Gun, Change My Mind

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Well, Blair has been gone for more than a decade, the government changed hands, and their gun laws as as tight as ever. Does that give you any pause?
     
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  2. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Can we discuss something recent?
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Oh, get off it.


    I spend a lot of time in the UK. Your claim in nonsense.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    I was amazed at the variety of weapons some people are already making.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Disarmed human beings prey - they attract predators. Gun Control Kills.

    In the UK and Canada the same repulsive corrupt political class that disarmed its subjects also took away their right to self defense.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but every report of increased gun crime after the gun ban demonstrates how dangerous gun control laws are.

    “In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.”
    “The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place.”
    The latest UK solution: “Last week, police in London revealed they had begun carrying out armed patrols on some streets. The move means officers armed with **SUB MACHINE GUNS** are engaged in routine policing for the first time.”
    THE DAILY MAIL, Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade,”, By JAMES SLACK, 27 October 2009.(** emphasis mine)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html
     
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  7. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Only handguns are controlled in Canada. You can protect your home with a short barrel shotgun.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    So, have you asked The Guardian, The Daily Mail, The Independent, The Economist, The Telegraph, The BBC ... to retract al their Fake News stories reporting soaring UK gun crime? ;-)
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    No you can't. They will arrest you.
     
  10. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Ask yourself why the UK hasn't changed its gun laws.

    BTW, Canada had a long gun registry they abandoned. There was a debate before they brought it in, while they had it, and when they got rid of it. But there hasn't been a call to bring it back.
     
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    The answer is a resounding YES, for all civilians who don’t have a legitimate reason to own one and then subject to strict safety controls for those who do. As to why, it should be is obvious but for those who have trouble understanding, any firearm is a lethal weapon, it serves no other purpose and is entirely a useless add on to everyday living as the majority of Americans know.

    Hopefully there are signs of this farce is ending the crap that you have been fed by those whose only god is the dollar bill and have fought off even the minimal regulations on control for years because it may effect their profits. Do you honestly think they give toss on the amount carnage their goods cause? They will seize on any fantasy that will increase their profits and promotes their goods to the gullible.

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    President Donald Trump
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    My prayers and condolences to the families of the victims of the terrible Florida shooting. No child, teacher or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an American school.

    8:50 PM - Feb 14, 2018


    Senator Thom Tillis
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    Tragic news out of Florida. Please keep the victims, their families, first responders and the community in your thoughts and prayers.

    10:19 PM - Feb 14, 2018

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    I am heartbroken for the students & family of those involved in this horrible tragedy & I'm praying for our first responders as they act swiftly to contain the situation. https://twitter.com/ap/status/963865321135378438

    9:08 PM - Feb 14, 2018

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    Just spoke to Broward School Superintendent. Today is that terrible day you pray never comes.

    9:34 PM - Feb 14, 2018


    Hypocrites and their crocodile tears. God they disgust me and I am not even American. The power of change is in your hands. Quote ‘We are many, they are few’
     
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    Why do you keep quoting articles that are over 17 years old??? And mate - unless you LINK to your source you will be reported
     
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    Law and order is for the elites in Canada - not for "the little people".

    "Closer to Calgary, Okotoks homeowner Edouard Maurice was taken into custody by the RCMP on the weekend after two men attempted to rob him. Maurice now faces serious charges including aggravated assault, pointing a firearm and careless use of a firearm after shots were fired, one of which struck alleged thief Ryan Watson in the arm.

    Watson has since been charged with trespassing by night, mischief to property, theft under $5,000 from a motor vehicle, possession of methamphetamine and failure to comply with probation. In other words, he faces a slap on the wrist while Maurice, the true victim, faces possible jail time."
    CALGARY HERALD, Corbella: As rural crime soars, residents go to desperate measures to protect their property, By Licia Corbella,
    Published on: February 28, 2018.
    http://calgaryherald.com/news/local...aves-rural-families-frightened-in-their-homes
     
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    Read more carefully. I have cited many more recent articles, and every article showed crime and gun crime rising repeatedly long after strict gun control including a ban was imposed.

    “The increasingly violent nature of England and Wales is underlined by double-digit increases in types of violent crime that, although low in volume, cause significant harm and alarm. They include a 27% rise in gun crime to 6,696 offences, a 26% increase in knife crime to 36,998 offences, robberies up 25% to 64,499, sexual offences up 19% to 129,700, and stalking and harassment up 36% to 243,086 reported incidents.”
    THE GUARDIAN, Police data shows crime rising at increasing rate in England and Wales, By Alan Travis Home affairs editor, 19 Oct ‘17.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rate-in-england-and-wales-police-figures-show
     
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    But that's racist. I would favor a federal crime with automatic 10 year sentence for anyone caught committing a crime with a firearm.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You referenced 30K but it is only 10K per year.
     
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    Exactly. Those criminals with guns have no fear of defense with a firearm from law abiding citizens. It's amazing to see the left pushing for gun control which only affects law abiding citizens and reduces their capacity for self defense. Criminals don't obtain firearms from sources who obey the law.
     
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    The gun control people do not really believe in self defense.
     
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    ever hear of 'meth labs' You might read up on that kind of stuff.
     
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    Hence the requirement that our public schools are gun free zones. What could go wrong ???
     
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    It might be time to ban public education as we know it.
     
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    Yup. I have. Do you have any trouble buying your meth?
     
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    I have not been in the market. The fact it is illegal to make or use meth precludes me from seriously considering it. A conviction of those crimes would destroy my career and education options . There is a demographic in every community in this country for whom the distinction between legal conduct and illegal conduct matters a great deal. Might even save some lives.
     
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  25. LangleyMan

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    Read my link.
     

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