"Incivility" in Godless Sweden has come (as OD said it would!)

Didn't you claim to have me on ignore, didn't I claim once already, to put me there and keep me there.
You are a TROLL, your only goal is to give christians a bad name.

Let me repeat!!!!!!! Your only GOAL is to give CHRISTIANS a BAD name.

 

In a desperate attempt to steer things back on topic...

[MENTION=17698]OverDrive[/MENTION]: define "civil" and "uncivil" and the metrics needed in either one. Because without it, you have no way to make the claim that this riot makes sweden uncivil.
[MENTION=52724]junobet[/MENTION]: please stop responding to him until he does this.
[MENTION=52125]dairyair[/MENTION]: you too ^^
[MENTION=58450]cupid dave[/MENTION]: oh god just go away you annoying little troll

 

Unfortunately your deluding your liberal mind, as usual. The youth these days want their 'dream job' and are unwilling to work the lesser in the process of finding it (if ever!). The same lazy attitude is growing in the US today...'we' all grew up working as bag boys in grocery stores, flipping burgers, mowing lawns, washing cars, etc. as was expected in 'paying our dues' into responsible adulthood. The current attitude of today's youth is of 'entitlements' and 'high self-esteem,' and sandbags that type of work ethic. There are many testimonies of US 'welfare moms' who came off of it thru hard work and multiple jobs who will attest to the 'enslavement' that long-term Govt welfare/food stamps/SS benefit programs lead to.

I have no 'shame' in supporting U.S. military charities for the disabled and wounded veterans; you know vets like me and my father who served in Germany keeping your butt safe during the Cold War!

And having worked with the German Luftwaffe (their air force), if Hitler was alive today he couldnt even take over Luxembourg with the present German military force! As everything else in Europe, it has been 'effeminized' and cant hold a candle to their 'fathers' fierce military of years past!

And gave away 'a' coat?! When you start giving away cars check back with me! I will leave it there as I prefer a 'heavenly reward' for my charity rather than the temporal praises of men (per scripture).

Who mentioned Glenn Beck? Altho I enjoy occasionally listening to him (who incorporates God w/scripture in his intentions), I feel in some cases his zeal takes him over the top. But just like you Liberals,' he "means well!!" Which of course, is 'all that really counts,' huh? Again, more 'hate' bias on your part and compartmentalizing ppl into YOUR handy pigeon holes so as not to have to respond to their words.

And referring to 'me' as a lost sheep is the epitome of self-pride and self-righteous judgment! If your words were meant to 'hurt' me or just in being arrogant with self-back patting, either way the opinion of men means nothing to me; but rather the Spirit of God attests to my words & conscience. I think that they are more out of a desperate defense to the way you think and justification of your narrow mindedness as most 'RELIGIOUS' ppl do...and again, I'm not 'religious' as in following the dogma & opinions of men (or woman!).

That's all the time that I'm going to 'waste' on YOU today.....as liberals dont live in the real world, just the Utopia of their own vain minds..per scripture, "If the Lord does not build the house, they labor in 'vain' who build it"

NOTE: And Stagnant (how appropriate a username in your case):

Reminding you of my previous comment on your posting 'style' (or lack of as a disingenuous troll): http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/304459-incivility-godless-sweden-has-come-od-said-would-14.html#post1062685836

 

So... No answer forthcoming? Because without knowing what you mean by "Civility", I can't evaluate your arguments. Well, okay, I can say that your evidence is anecdotal at best and clashes with all the rest of the data we have on Sweden, while simultaneously not addressing "civility" in other "godless" nations such as Japan or Denmark. Come on, throw us a bone - how do you quantify "Civil"? It clearly has nothing to do with GNPPP, HDI, or overall happiness...

Also, you do realize that quoting someone's long post while removing the content for the purpose of letting them know you were addressing them is pretty standard fare, right? Does anyone think that I intended to quote you as literally saying "whole lotta bull(*)(*)(*)(*)"? Or are you just going to be a pedant about this to blatantly dodge what amounts to a crippling question for your thread? Personally, I think it's the latter - you don't have an answer for me, so you respond by screeching about how I "misattributed" you in a quote rather than doing the intellectually honest thing and addressing counter-arguments.

I won't hold my breath either way.

 

You just don't get it, or have no intention of trying to get it.

Sexual behavior of every sort will always be with us, we just have no reason and no benefit in telling each other in public about these behaviors.
They are a subject that is of little interest or value to anyone but the consenting people secretly "enjoying: whatever they wish to do, unseen and unpublished and unmentioned to everyone else, especially to the children of the next generation.

Society gains nothing and risks everything in educating elementary school kids in homosexual practices and existence.
Gays who kill the last visage of masculinity in telling their father they are gay, while their mother embraces them anyway, and joins them against any rebuttal of by her husband are merely acting out the end of the Oedipus Syndrome which was the cause of their homosexuality in the first place.

Don't ask and don't tell,(straight or gay sex), in the military or anywhere is the ONLY policy a nation needs to survive.
Simple enough, indeed.

 

You oppose Christians too, right?
You said you left the Lutherans because you realized they were lying about the Bible, insisting that the earth is 6000 years old.

Right?
I too oppose the present Christians, who ignore that 2/3rds of the abortions they politically rally against come from their own daughters.

They are hypocrites who cast stones at the harlots who have abortions to avoid the illegitimacy of a single mother, when those girls are their own daughters who are not religious until their kids start worrying them.

 

What happened in your life to give you this horror of sexuality?
I don't think I've ever met anyone, Christian or not, as freaked out by sex as you seem to be.

 

I don't oppose christians. Just about everyone I know is a christian.
I haven't left the Lutheran church, just stopped attending.
There are many christians in this forum, they believe the bible differently about the stories in it.
They do all agree Jesus is the christ.

 

...sexual PROMISCUITY,...

The realization that the Bible was warning about the destructiveness sexual promiscuity freaked me out.

It was lame, in my opinion, for Freud to say the problems in our society are based upon Libido.

But when I realized that the differentiation, between the society the Bible promotes and all others, was related to just our sexual mores and behavior, it freaked me out.
The prophets were all basing their warnings of impending doom on this one theory of sociology, and the observation, in psychology, that no one ever sees or hears the warning of what is coming.

Then, I saw the stats and studies of the American culture support the coming collapse, when contrasted with the prudent patriarchies of Islam.

It also freaked me out, that this message has no legs except for the Bible supporting it.

It freaked me out that the Bible is the one and only authority here, with any traction that can get attention to this matter, since whether sexual promiscuity is going to kill us all, and destroy America is immaterial if no one will listen.

So I am freaked out that the churches CAN save America... if they will move now to use the Statistics and the facts to support the prophets and the warnings.
Jesus can save us all,... before the liberal make Gay Marriage, Abortion, Free Condoms, Birth Control pills, Illegitimacy, Welfare, Single Mothers, abused fatherless criminal kids, et al, are so common there are no rational sensible adults left to change course.

 

I wonder if God cares about statistics and our so-called facts.............

 

I’m afraid your views on todays youth are more a rather common symptom of old age than having anything to do with reality as it presents itself to me. Young people almost daily ask me for a job, unfortunately I can’t employ them all. Those who I do employ are hard-working, such as a young single-mother who works for us, studies in university and takes good care of her kid. So is my country keeping her dependent when it grants her a student’s loan, child--care and housing-benefits etc., or are we enabling her to create a future for herself and her little son? What would be her chances to do that without such help? Back in the days when I studied I worked nightshifts in a project housing and counselling difficult teenagers from difficult family-situations. In spite of all efforts a lot of these kids will remain welfare-cases until they die of an overdose or something. But just recently I met three of the projects former clients who’ve managed to get their life together via its help. Wouldn’t those three kids alone justify that some of my tax money goes into funding such projects, projects that have seen their funding cut in Sweden over recent years? What’s your alternative to long-term Govt welfare/food stamps/SS benefit programs? Letting the precariat rot in the streets? How would that be “Christian”?

The US keeping my butt safe during the Cold War? You must be kidding! Even though I was lucky enough not to grow up in one of the many countries in which the US fought its proxy wars I spent the large parts of my youth being terrified of either the US or the USSR pressing the red button. It would not have mattered to me who pressed it first. I and the rest of mankind would have been dead either way. Do you know what Christians in Germany did during the Cold War? They held demonstrations for nuclear disarmament!

As for U.S. military charities: why are they needed in the first place? Would it not be the state's job to fully support those who lost their health in its service?

So you admire the Nazis for arming Germany to its teeth again after WWII? Do you ever think before typing?

Obviously you overlooked my statement that I don’t regard giving away my coat as an “outstanding act of charity.” I don’t doubt you give a lot to what you deem to be charitable causes. Keep it going, but don’t try to misconstrue an uninformed ad hominem concerning my generosity in a weak attempt to distract from the topic here: your uncharitable assessment of the Sweden Riots and their causes.

Glenn Beck sprang to my mind because he made equally disgusting remarks about “social justice” as you did. It's you who's pigeon-holing himself here by your very own words. “Social justice” is not only promoted by the Catholic Church but also by most European and at least some American Protestant Churches including mine. I think it’s worth pointing that out to counterbalance the bad name some American 'Conservative' Christians such as you give to Christianity.

We all are lost sheep. And imho in this thread you are especially lost. Or in other words: I don’t think the Lord built your house here, but false priests such as Glenn Beck did. If you don’t like to be judged for blowing these false priests horns, don’t judge others such as the youth of today in general and the kids who rioted in Sweden in particular.

 

Sorry, I could not help myself. As I said: I'm sick and tired of his ilk giving my religion a bad name.

 

Keeping the existence of homosexuality secret – even if that worked - won’t keep your son or daughter from becoming gay or lesbian. It will just turn them into deeply neurotic unhappy people who’ll have to carry the burden of a secret and of constantly having to lie to themselves, and/or their families and the rest of the world about who they are and what they feel.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/428992/20130129/gay-lesbian-bisexual-coming-out-closet-good.htm

If I can help myself this will be my last reply to your paranoid homophobic rants.

 

Are you still trying to talk sense into this guy? Why?!

OY! OVERDRIVE! STILL WAITING ON THOSE DEFINITIONS OVER HERE!