Infuriated by the Atheists.

Such illogic as this is sadly typical of the Christianists. Why on earth would those who disbelieve in a God, prefer one bunch of the deluded to another bunch of the deluded? Neither are all socialists atheists, and there is no requirement in socialist ideology, which is essentially secular, for any kind of state religion whatsoever.
Spouting paranoid irrelevant falsehoods such as this can only help any anti-Christianists who might exist outside of a fevered imagination.

 

...eh, kind of enjoying his posts as they contain reason, btw.

 

State governments are subordinate to the US federal government, the Constitution, and the treaties that are ratified by the US federal government. As the Treaty of Tripoli is a treaty ratified by the US federal government, it establishes that none of the constituent states of the USA are founded on the Christian religion either (in conjunction with the US Constitution, which established the wall between church and state as well). Remember, the founders were mostly Enlightenment-era political theorists who abhorred the idea of religious governance and established the foundations of government with the intent to limit church interference against the state (hence the lack of any specific references to deities in the founding documents; these men were smart and often literate in 3+ languages and were aware of writings from dozens of prior political theorists); if they really wanted to establish a Christian nation, they would have done so. They chose not to, and the Treaty of Tripoli illustrates that fact quite obviously.

 

Yes, the sort of reason by which one extracts a convenient conclusion from an idiotic premise. Wimmen tend to be very appreciative of that.

 

Dude, you lost before you started, and you might as well just get the hell over it.

 

Mary Thumb and her four daughters, the Finger sisters, never charge.

 

You're not talking to your subservient brainwashed wimmin types here btw, but I see you're into the Christmas spirit early, my soginyst guy. If you keep it up, I'll start the Christmas karaoke and ruin your fun...

 

Well I like to think of it as Christmans all year 'round.

Is this your way of saying you have a voice like a bandsaw cutting sheet metal?

 

That's not completely true, Akhlut. While the United States has no state religion, it is founded on Judaeo/Christian principals and the founders did recognize a deity. If you read The Declaration of Independence you will find quite plain references to God. "...the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God..." "...they are endowed by their Creator..." "...appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world..." "...with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence..." Nowhere in either The Declaration of Independence or The Constitution of The United States does it state that The United States is a secular nation. The only reference to religion in The Constitution is the statement; "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of ..."

No reasonable person reading the above statement regarding religion can come to the conclusion that The United States is a secular nation.

 

I guess you never read the part of The Bible where he whipped the moneychangers out of the temple.

 

And those atheists like Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Maotsedung, etc. were just poor misunderstood people who went around doing good but were the victims of bad press.

It would help if you did a little research first before posting statements like Christians hindered science. Look up Francis Bacon, Gregor Mendel and other Christians who were also noted scientists.

 

Sure, hence why you aren't actually advancing a counterargument or your own premise, merely asserting without providing any sort of evidence.

It's founded on Enlightenment era principles that don't flow from a deity; hence the usage of the principles of Locke, among others.

A deity does not mean YHWH.

The Declaration has no bearing on the establishment of the current United States with regards to the government and its laws. It was basically written as a quasi-legal means to legitimate the break from the United Kingdom, and, as such, doesn't really effect US law (note that it is seldom, if ever, referenced in US courts for citing or either precedent or law, unlike the Constitution or English common law).

Secular refers to a nation-state not being affiliated with religion; ergo, by not endorsing any religion in the Constitution and by repudiating the only real religion that the US would have been founded on (Christianity, given that the people in charge of the US government at the time were all WASPs, essentially), pretty much makes the government secular by default.

Yes, I'm sure all the Supreme Court justices for the past ~200 years have all been unreasonable people.

 

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GORDON's ALIVE

 

His anger was not impotent, or born of frustration. That cannot be said about the "infuriation" of the OP, which you may rest assured produces a sense of mirth among the God haters rather than fear.

 

This is not an argument. This is me bearing witness to the fact that you don't know what the Hell you're talking about, and you burbling away about nothing in hopes of dragging me into the fetid realm of confusion you live in, hth.

 

Concession accepted.

 

Interesting is that so-called "atheists" and "secular humanists" fight only Christianity and never Islam. I asked a question to Muslims and so-called "atheists" and waiting for an answer until now.

I guess most of "atheists" are Muslims who hardly working on destroying of Christianity as Foundation of the Western society.

Here some links to my questions:

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/222609-mohammeds-high-regard-women.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...says-muslims-will-drink-alcohol-heaven-2.html

BTW I have never seen a thread started by an "atheist" which criticized Islam, almost all bashed only Christianity.

 

Gheghis Khan's religion is a matter of speculation, and teh one you recommend is purely speculative and based on what manyin his culture followed - and nothing more. The truth of a matter is that he dabbled in many and participated in none. What does that make him?

And that is utimately the point being made.

If a poster were to jump into the forum and repeatedly denounce atheists as Stalinistic savages - atheists would eventually find such conduct to be little more than deliberate offense, and certainly not debate. Hell, I have been overtly attacked by atheists in this forum who are in the process of calling me a religious Crusader commanded by God to murder and rape based on the Crusades ... blah, blah, blah. And when you remind them of atheistic escapes that are equally as bloody? Well, then you are liar, and teh attacks REALLY get personal.

Its a simply point, if your cirticism of religion is that we are commanded to rape - then you are idiot.

If you think all atheists are like Joeseph Stalin, then you are equally and idiot.

Both statement do not engender debate, the engender emotional vitriol.

Ergo, my recommendation is that we ban the use of the words and accusations.

Yep, that means some atheists, Christains, and Islamophobes will have to find a home else where. I suggest we bear in mind what they are doing this home while they are here.

And no, to clarify, when someone calls me a rapist commanded by God to enslave other people - that is not an opinion, its flame bait and trolling.

If you can't find a valid reason to disgree like an adult, then there are several forums where one can use the adult version of calling people doo doo heads that might be at a more appropriate level of maturity for said posters.

Unless of course, that is what we want this forum to be?

Now that would be the question.

 

True, but sometimes they need to have their palm greased.

 

Did you think up the dumbest thing you could claim and type it?

 

most christians aren't offended by atheists, this must be a problem for the very conservative christians.

 

I'm not offended. They are still human beings, and I would help and be kind to them just as much as any christian. THAT is how a christian is supposed to behave... its like christians picked up their own mild version of jihad- "hate the the nonbelievers!" haha

 

"Don't call me a rapist and pretend it is civil discussion," is a mild form of jihad against unbelievers?

There are plenty of atheists who do NOT do this BTW.

 

what exactly are you saying? I was bashing rude christians for how they acted. and im not exactly sure what you are saying at all