interesting on-campus findings by former homosexuals

Glad to hear that. . . but then I have no idea how you can be so cavalier with the love that is shared between two people. . .of any sex!

 

Because that's my opinion...

 

Fair enough. . .Just for the record. . .It is NOT mine, and it is not that of some long lasting gay couples.

 

I hope you don't think that all gay couples think alike.

 

Absolutely not. . .this is why I stated "SOME."

By the way. . .I do not know "ALL" gay couples. . .and neither do you!

 

Never said I did nor did I claim that I was ever trained on how heteros have sex. Nor do I care. I have a relationship to worry about and not other people's relationships.

 

Trained to know what sex was like among homosexual people? Unless you had gay sex than you know nothing. Sorry.

 

I do not pretend to know what EXPERIENCING gay sex is like.

But, as a social worker serving people with AIDS (at that time, a great percentage were homosexual male), my gay co-workers and my lesbian boss thought it would be helpful to have a very detailed training on homosexuality, including videos of "close friends" having a party and open conversation with several "questions and answers" sessions with gay men and women willing and even eager to express themselves and to educate the professionals dedicated to help their friends and companions. It helped me and my heterosexual colleagues to understand the differences between homosexual friendships and love relationships and the same among heterosexuals. It also helped build a more trustful and friendly rapport between us, and thus helped to serve our clients better.

By the way. . .I am NOT the enemy! And I never pretended knowing EVERYTHING about the emotions and the sexual attractions among gay men or women. . .no more than any movies or book in the world would give a gay person who has never experienced heterosexual sex and close friendship could grasp everything about it.

So, maybe we could agree to ignore each other, or debate with respect.

I am not the one who started placing "judgement" on whether or not hetero or homo sexual behavior was more "fulfilling," or what that would even consist of!

 

woooossshhhhhhh

no labels

how you choose to have sex should have no bearing on the govt

they do not belong in marriage at all or making different rules for SS etc. We are all individuals and that is the only way the govt should see us. We can create couples, groups etc ourselves for things like group discounts but the moment we allow govt to think they belong in things you bet your bippy they will seize that opportunity and encroach more into our lives

I am not a leftist and thus see the problem with that. Leftists believe that govt is the solution but good Americans know that govt is the problem

 

sure

if I walk into a cancer resource center then I would expect to see lots of treatment pamphlets including holistic

Since we hear all about how homosexuals struggle with being part of the 3.4%'ers then common sense dictates that treatments to help them return to heterosexuality should be discussed as well.

 

Yeah. Most self identified lesbian women have also had sex with men and these women have on average more MALE sexual partners than the average, self identified heterosexual women. And of course homosexual men on average top the chart when it comes to multiple partners.

 

Is that the only thing your wife means to you, it's who you have sex with? No offense, but that's pretty sad, and a very strange use of public displays for wedding rings and a ceremony involving family and friends. I would have expected more discretion out of you than to flaunt your sexual partners around.

 

one more time

govt does not belong in anything other than with the individual. The moment we allow them to differentiate based upon how we choose to have sex is when we've opened Pandoras box and the govt is always glad to expand their scope and breadth

 

Yet I suspect you didn't object to survivor benefits for the surviving spouse of married couples- until homosexuals wanted the same benefit.

I think that there are rational reasons for a government to allow specific benefits to married couples- but I could live with a country where there were no distinctions made for married couples- and the law just treated everyone as individuals, as long as the law didn't discriminate in anyway.

But the possibility that either the Right or the Left will embrace eliminating spousal benefits is even less likely than Georgia embracing homosexual marriage.

 

With respect, you made the public profile and are taking with us here on a public forum, this is the wrong place to expect privacy. And no I'm not trying to help you, in trying to help her. I believe she misunderstood what you said and where you are coming from. Forgive me for trying to help her out and maybe clear the air a bit. She had been nothing but nice and sympathetic. I don't understand the hostility, but I'll gladly back her up, your hollow threats not withstanding.

 

I hear what you said, I'm justpointing out the fact that you don't seem to believe your wife, your wedding are just about sex, do you? Do you wear a ring to show to the world your sexual status? You are reducing anything to sex which I doubt you in your own life.

 

I think she cares enough to try, she is willing to listen, and does not deserve to be attacked for it. If you believe she got something wrong, which she may well have, there are other ways it could have been handled. This is not about who was right or wrong in their perceptions, she may very well be wrong. Rather this is about how it was handled. You have handled it with needless hostility, which was uncalled for whether or not she was right.

 

You know...I just realized there are a lot of Jeffs here. lol

 

I was getting worried there for a minute

 

3 and counting, that seem to lack creativity enough to make user names that don't include our own names.

I find people take me more seriously when I get upset if I'm not upset all the time ;-P. Not necessarily here, but in general. It's not worth my time and stress to get mad at other people... getting mad rarely changes anything anyway except for the worse. But sometimes you just got to cut your losses and draw the line. Anyway, that's how I try to approach things.

I still think you're hypocrite for speaking against the government intrusion of allowing gay marriage while yourself being married, saying it's "just sex" while I doubt you'd say you wear your wedding ring and invited your friends to ceremonies recognizing your union, celebrate your anniversaries and otherwise bind yourself legally and socially... for "just sex". This is either implied distain for homosexuality or expressed hypocrisy.

Just so you don't feel left out

 

Aw poor sec. We still love you! Er...hate you! Er...I dunno. Whatever. lol

 

thank you

I felt that I was in the Twilight Zone or something

 

None of the above.

 

Wait Sec is actually married?

See I don't have a problem answering that problem as a married man. I have been married for over 20 years, and I have to say- if it was only about the sex- we would never have had any reason to get married. If it was to gain government benefits- well I can't think of any that we consistently have gotten since we got married- the only possible one is income tax- and that varies depending on our joint income- some years we would come out ahead if we were not married. Most of the other governmental benefits that I can think of we either never needed(I have never been in a coma in the hospital) or will not get until one of us dies.

I don't understand why anyone would think that those homosexuals who want to get married, do so for any different reasons than heterosexuals who want to get married. Of my gay friends who have gotten married- they did so for the exact same reason my wife and I got married.

 

I want sec to show these posts to his wife, so that she knows the only reason he married her was for sex. I'm sure she'll be happy to hear that.