interesting on-campus findings by former homosexuals

the color of ones skin isn't even close to how one has sex

2 men walking down the street, which one is black (now play cutesy games but if one is visibly black then it's easy to see vs a great great grampy was black)

2 men walking down the street, which one has homosexual sex?

Those who were victims of civil rights violations should be offended by trying to draw a similarity with how one has sex

 

And again- what makes discrimination wrong in one case- and okay in the other?

 

He thinks that you're only homosexual when you have sex. No, I'm not kidding. He's using that to try to make some distinction.

But I can tell him that I did not choose to be attracted to the same sex, and I am attracted to the same sex 24/7- all the time. People are homosexual all the time, not just when they have sex.

 

And people are discriminated against for merely being perceived as being homosexual- regardless of whether they are or they aren't.

We do not allow business's to discriminate against people based upon their religion- yet religion is undisputably a personal choice.

It is almost like a joke- a Queer, a Jew and a Negro walk into a bar.....and the bartender tells one of them "get out- we don't serve your kind here"- which person was the bartender talking to?

 

Agreed- his argument falls flat on it's face.

 

... bigoted homophobe surely applies to the character of many posting their opinions here. There is no doubt about that.

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Kudos (once again) to your honesty and reasonableness. Bravo!!

 

Not exactly, because blacks and hispanics face discrimination based on things that it's very difficult to hide.

If you have two identical resumes, one for Keshawn and one for Shawn, Shawn is much more likely to get a job interview than Keshawn. No one is assumed to be a criminal for looking gay, but a young black male is likely to be seen that way. Blacks get pulled over for having too nice of a car, they get followed around in stores to make sure they're not shoplifting.

I won't say that no gays have been discriminated against based on appearance, but it's probably rarer and less severe than the case for blacks or hispanics. No mother fears that her gay kid is going to be taken for a gangbanger.

http://blog.timesunion.com/rebdeb/the-talk-when-youre-raising-young-black-men/1060/
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2147710,00.html

I think it's probably about halfway between racial minority status and religious status.

 

environment.....


I did not choose to be attracted to 110# girls but I am

black guys did not choose to be attracted to girls with big butts.... but the are.

you did not choose to be attracted to a huge dick.... but you are.....


and it all revolves around environment.

 

I can smell the fear of homophobic Americans a long way off. They're IMAGINING they are 'okay'... but they are reprehensible in their expressions.

 

when gays are discriminated against, it's because they are flaming about it.... but in that case, it's not so much the sucking of other dudes penis' that they are being discriminated for, it's their personaliity they are being not hired for.

 

I'm gonna let Johnny C take this one, since he is black and gay. I take it you'll listen to him since he's experienced prejudice for both?

 

here... I'll type his response....


"you are all a bunch of homophobic bigots"

 

You wanna address septimine's post too?

 

and try to do it without the words "homophobe" or "bigot" or "ignorant" (or some variation of it)

 

LOL!!! I know some men who think that they ARE "heterosexual", just because they don't (always) have gay sex. In reality, they are interested in (attracted to) BOTH sexes but cannot admit it to themselves. Many are conflicted with that as well.

 

I'll take a look at it.

(And for ANYONE who thinks that I won't CALL OUT 'ignorance' or 'homophobia'... I'm here to remind them that they are dreaming.)

 

that and you don't know any other way of debating... lol

 

You assume I'm debating with every post? That would be foolish. Sometimes, I'm just calling things as I see them and lashing-out to call BS what it is. Just a more acceptable way of telling some people to eat ----. You need to understand that.

(I could use other language... and make that perfectly clear, but that isn't allowed here. I'm sure I have a right to express my disdain at the bigotry, hatred and homophobia some imagine they are getting away with.)

 

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Even so... those who are out here DEHUMANIZING others, have coming to them what they do not prefer and often do not expect. The payback is very regretable; reciprocity really does happen, even in ways that bigots, haters and homophobes aren't capable of fathoming or predicting. Bottom line: What you dish in this world out tends to come back... one way or the other.

Yes. Growing up, I learned to detect when I was being followed/watched... even making use of security people to get shopping 'help'. I learned that certain behaviors would send 'help' my way in a hurry; sometimes that was very useful... but typically annoying.

The reality is, that if people even 'suspect' that you are gay (not as much today), they like to play "private-eye" to OUT you. I learned to turn that right back onto many idiots, causing them to think it seemed as though I thought they wanted to 'hit' on me. In reality, more than a few down-low gays (that I wanted nothing to do with) have indeed tried to hit on me. (Talk about a major annoyance.)

In ANY case: People just need to learn to treat others as they wish to be treated. If one is anti-WHATEVER and proceeds to dehumanize another person, then they are just asking for trouble and literally INJECTING more problems into this world. That isn't hard to know/understand.

 

Yet we have discrimination laws that forbid discrimination based upon race, religion, national origin and sexual preference.

Does that mean unless we have exactly equal amounts or exactly the same type of discrimination that it doesn't matter?

Like I said before

And people are discriminated against for merely being perceived as being homosexual- regardless of whether they are or they aren't.

We do not allow business's to discriminate against people based upon their religion- yet religion is undisputably a personal choice.

It is almost like a joke- a Queer, a Jew and a Negro walk into a bar.....and the bartender tells one of them "get out- we don't serve your kind here"- which person was the bartender talking to?

 

I would say that the challenges gays face are certainly different, but not necessarily any less severe. While a black person is more likely to be discriminated against than a white simply by visual identification, LGBT make up ~40% of homeless youth, and are far more disproportionately likely to be discriminated against by their own family. Homosexuals, especially in youth, are often very isolated with very little social and family support. Homosexuals pay a heavy price to hide their homosexuality from everyone, even their family... and if they chose not to hide it, then they are just as easily identified as a black person, and far more easily ostracized because of it.

I can't say which is "better" or "worse", it's not really right to make such comparisons... just trying to say, it's kinda hard to imagine the struggles a gay kid goes through unless you've been through it, and it's no walk in the park.

 

The government "forcing you" to perform services for any paying customer, rather than solely customers you choose not to discriminate against, is not a violation of your liberties. You denying others the rights you'd expect to receive yourself is a violation of their liberties.

"Seperate but equal", which you seem to be supporting, was deemed unconsititutional some time ago.

 

Sorry, but that is a dumb comment!

Gays, in general, are very successful people, and occupy a very large sector of some industries, because of their stereotypical creativity. However, those are stereotypes that do not do justice to all the gay people who have very successful career in just about every areas of industry and commerce. . . in addition, of course, to their place in Hollywood (and not only in acting!).

There is no reason to discriminate against ANYONE in any area of industry based on sexual orientation (or race, or religious preference). ALL that should be consider is "Can you do the job?" And obviously, the gay population is diverse enough on its own to hold both people who can do the job and those who can't!

However, I find your comment about "dudes' penis" to be purposely offensive to gay people. . . .by the way, do you resent women who like to "suck dudes' penis" or men who love to "lick women's clitoris?"

Get real!

 

BS. That is a gigantic lie. (You probably realize that.)