interesting on-campus findings by former homosexuals

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    However, there is a law against discrimination. . .a realtor cannot refuse to help a Black couple (or a gay couple) to purchase a home. . .and a florist whose livelihood rests on selling flowers for weddings or civil unions shouldn't have the right to discriminate based on the sex of his clients. . .No one is asking the florist to have gay sex. . .or even to bless the wedding. . . just to do his job and provide the flowers!
     
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    I've said time and again. If I were a florist or other shopkeeper and there was another who would not serve homosexuals, then I would hang a rainbow banner out my window.

    In business I only see green. But, that is me. If someone does not want to serve me for whatever reason then I'll take my business elsewhere. I won't toss a hissy fit and get the govt involved.

    The beauty of capitalism is that if one place won't do a job then I assure there are others who will and be glad for the business. The issue with the homosexual militants is they are extreme leftists who want to impose govt upon everyone to push their agenda and beliefs. We all have pre conceived ideas about certain groups. Heck, look at what mediamatters has done to push a concept of the Tea Party. You'd think good Americans are more harmful than terrorists.

    Anyway, if I hear that someone is homosexual I know that they sleep with the same sex. That's all I know. If I hear they voted twice for Obama then I have a whole bunch of stereotypes that I assign to that person. It's human nature
     
  3. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    If one business decided not to serve you on the basis of... Your eye color... You might walk away thinking that they were just crapbags, and take your business elsewhere...
    What if this happened in multiple businesses?
    What if the government decided you couldn't be married because of your eye color?
    What if people of different eye colors had all kinds of derogatory names for people like you?
    What if religions preached that your eye color was a sign of demonic possession, and that you were destined for Hell?

    How long would you wear colored contacts?
     
  4. sec

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    I am born with my eye color. One cannot tell that you live the homosexual lifestyle unless they sneak into your bedroom

    the comparisons don't wash. The marriage dog won't hunt either and that dead horse is way over beaten. Govt belongs in the personal lives of nobody; period. We should be treated as individuals by the govt and that's it.
     
  5. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    You are born with your eye color, but could choose to hide it... Not really that different.

    Hang on, you now want people to be treated as individuals?
    What happened to your "right" to discriminate against groups of people?
     
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    discriminate on individual basis.... even if they are black, or gay, or whatever..... is different than discriminating ALL blacks, gays, whatever
     
  7. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    Sure, you can dislike a person who is an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and also happens to be gay, or black, or handicapped, or white, or whatever...
    But that's not what was being discussed.
     
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    everyone is an individual, not a married couple or a homosexual group. Nope, laws and rules should be made for individuals. Anything beyond that is over-reach and leftist. I have been consistent.

    As a side note, that's a nice try but you'll soon learn that I'm consistent.

    Being homosexual or heterosexual is nothing more than how we choose to have sex

    other than that, we're all the same. With that said, there is absolutely no reason for any laws or rules to be made based upon how one has sex. That is govt over-reach.
     
  9. Logician0311

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    I can agree with this, which means that rights and privileges provided to straight individuals should be equally afforded to homosexual individuals...
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    As much as some people don't like the term "homophobia"... many expressing their opinions here indicate that they are indeed affected by that same thing. Unfortunately, they will often deny (or be unaware of) that reality.
     
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    nope, no labels needed at all. it creates a victim and entitlement mentality. If you want to see a big FUBAR then look at single people and Social Security compared to "married" people.

    What about insurance? Why can't I buy a "family plan" and add my sibling to it as long as I'm willing to pay the premium?
     
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    No we are not all the same. Some of us are not bigoted and filled with hate over who people sleep with and love...
     
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    were you implying something there? I'll come right out and state that I see much intolerance and hatred put forth in posts toward anyone who has a different opinion than that put forth by the militant gays.

    Go and engage in homosexual sex all that you want. It does not make you any better or worse than the rest of us. You are not special because you have sex differently than 96.6% of adults
     
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    Amen to that!!
     
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    Yes it does. Everyone knows that gay people have sex way more often than straight people's 15 minutes of boring sex...But enjoy that!
     
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    :clapping: Indeed!!!
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay. . .that means that NO LAW OR RULES should be made to prevent homosexuals or homosexual couples to have the SAME RIGHTS than heterosexual couples.
    On this. . .we totally agree!
     
  18. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well. . .I'm sorry, but here I have to disagree with you! Sex can be good or bad. . .15 minutes or less or an hour or more. . .with ANYONE. . .I certainly don't see where I missed anything being heterosexual. . . But I guess it is only for people who tried both that judge!

    And, it obviously also matter what partner you choose! And that applies to both hetero or homosexual couples!
     
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    An hour?? At least 2 hours and that's just a quickie!!! And I was talking about the married straight people I know that complain about the lack of sex or the desire to have less sex with their husband or wife...:banana:
     
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    I agree with you. Still, I found what jeffarkin said to be a good poke at the other guy. :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yeah. I think some people just weren't meant to be 'married'. They'd be better off single their entire lives.
     
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    Wow. This (*)(*)(*)(*) is funny.

    This is like an alt-med site going "undercover" at a major college and reporting the shocking findings that the local health administration recommends chemotherapy. Um, yeah, no (*)(*)(*)(*) sherlock. It's what psychology expects at this point. In fact, the whole article is essentially about universities following the psychology consensus and the ex-gay site not liking it. WELL NO (*)(*)(*)(*) SHERLOCK. What do you expect when you spit in the face of all the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing research on the subject up to this point? Sec, you need to find better sources, because this is just sad. Although, let's be honest - when you do have better sources, the result is usually just you lying about it.
     
  22. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Come on, Jeff! I am very much a supporter of gay rights, and I totally agree that gay people (especially men) have generally great sex life. . .I worked in a AIDS projects with many gay men (and a few gay women), and it was part of our training to KNOW what sex was like among homosexual people.

    But. . .no matter how you want to look at it. . . a "new lover" is always a good way to renew sexual energy! However, a long term relationship has a way to move one's libido to the limit of knowledge and intimacy of the other.

    Gay people tend to change partner more often. . .which may affect that "excitement of a new love" feeling. But, based on what I know from LONG TERM relationship between gay people (I mean, 15, 20, even 40 years), the evolution of intimacy is not much different from the intimacy that develops between long term heterosexual partners.

    LOVE, not lust, is the secret of happy, fulfilling, sexual AND emotional relationships. . .not "marathon sex!"

    But, you may be too young to understand that! I hope you do find out some day!
     
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    Sex is awesome; but sex combined with LOVE is exponentially better.
     
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    In the OP, you indicate that LGBTQ Resource Centers should be required to present "all information" about "alternative viewpoints" rather than their "one agenda".
    On post #30, you insinuate that people should have the right to discriminate against homosexuals.
    On post #77, you claim "homosexual militants ... are extreme leftists who want to impose govt upon everyone to push their agenda and beliefs"
    On post #83, you claim "you'll soon learn that I'm consistent".
    In that same post (#83), you also say "there is absolutely no reason for any laws or rules to be made based upon how one has sex"

    So, explain to me the consistancy in a position that includes:
    a) forcing LGBTQ Resource Centers to post material they disagree with,
    b) Whining about businesses being "forced" to serve gays,
    c) Saying no rules should be made in relation to how people have sex.
     
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    I have.
     

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