Is abortion really that bad?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Artythizza, Feb 20, 2011.

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Are you for, or against abortion?

  1. For abortion.

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  2. Against abortion.

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  1. sablegsd

    sablegsd Banned

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    Are you flippin serious?
     
  2. Unifier

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    But I brought that up here for a reason. Because of the obvious parallel to abortion. There is nothing in slavery that demands humane treatment. Slaves are simply property in the eyes of the law. Not people. And just like any other piece of property, it's your choice how you want to treat it. You can take good care of it, or you can stick firecrackers in it and blow it up for fun. Because you own it. It's yours.
     
  3. Cady

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    Do women own their bodies? Slavery is a more obvious parallel to forced pregnancy.
     
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    Yeah since the baby just randomly appeared in the womans stomach... :-D
     
  5. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When it's born, it's a baby.
     
  6. jthorp24

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    What is inside the stomach then? A monster?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Inside the stomach is whatever the woman has eaten. The zef occupies the uterus or sometimes called the womb. The zef does not exist in the stomach.
     
  8. countryboy

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    What in world is a "zef"?
     
  9. OKgrannie

    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's an acronym. Zygote/embryo/fetus.
     
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    Shorthand only used by abortionists who stive to dehumanize the unborn baby.
     
  12. countryboy

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    Not a very well known one, I should say. Doesn't even come up on google.

    Did you make that up yourself?
     
  13. Otter

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    And that is why pro-abortionists HATE it when you post pictures of aborted babies. It disrupts their cover of 'nothing bad happened - just some tissue - not really human - no long-term effects to you from abortion' - lies.

    But if people look under the curtain the abortionist draws, to see what is really going on, they will realize:

    An abortion kills a human life. It kills your unborn child. It has long-term health risks.

    Educate yourself.
     
  14. Cady

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    Don't you think a (z)ygote/(e)mbryo/(f)etus is human?
     
  15. Otter

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    Sure I do - but why would you need shorthand to combine all those phases of development by an unborn baby - unless your sole objective is to kill it?

    Medical personnel certainly never use this term.
     
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    And anti-abortionists hate it when you point out their pictures are fake. Usually still-borns.

    http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/truth_about_photos.html

    'What they are showing to the public is a lie,' says Joni Ladowski, a nurse at a nearby clinic, as she unfolds a length of gauze. In the center lies what appears to be a clot the size of a peanut. It is a fetus, nine weeks old. 'This is an abortion,' she says."
     
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    Because shorthand is faster and easier?

    They don't use it when they are speaking to a woman who has chosen to give birth.
     
  20. Otter

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    And this is from an aborted 10 week old fetus:

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Otter

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    I worked on an OB-GYN unit at a teaching hospital. The medical staff NEVER used the term 'zef'.

    It would have been too imprecise, for one thing.
     
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    For precision, the terms zygote, embryo, or fetus would be needed. Certainly "unborn baby" is imprecise, and since medical dictionaries define "baby" as "infant," and "infant" as a child from birth to one year, the term "unborn baby" is an oxymoron.
     
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    We're not talking about the woman's body. We're talking about what's in the woman's body. Dehumanization is not a new concept. It has been practiced in many forms throughout history. The fact that you're refusing to even acknowledge the central subject of this debate right now is a glaring example of how it is still very much in use today in the abortion argument.
     
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    I am willing to bet my life that that is actually a miscarriage, not an abortion.
     
  25. jthorp24

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    Well you are dead then. That hand is on top of a quarter.
     
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