Is abortion really that bad?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Artythizza, Feb 20, 2011.

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Are you for, or against abortion?

  1. For abortion.

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  2. Against abortion.

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    A 10 week old fetus wouldn't have visible body parts to see. You think that suction tube just breaks it up into pieces?
     
  2. jthorp24

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    A hand on a miscarriage would be much larger than a quarter.
     
  3. Otter

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    Then you don't value YOUR life very much either.

    Most miscarried babies are delivered intact - NOT ripped apart like that one was from abortion.

    And if you look closely, there is a medical examiner's authorization along with the picture of the 10 week old fetus's arm. The dime was for scale.
     
  4. Makedde

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    Evidence?

    Let me guess - the ME is pro life, right?

    And the dime is not for scale at all. The dime is for propaganda purposes.
     
  5. Otter

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    Not at 10 weeks gestational.

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  6. Otter

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    Surely you don't claim to be ignorant of what happens to the unborn baby in abortion?

    And my bad - it is a quarter, not a dime. And why else would it be in the picture BUT for scale? You did not study much science or biology, did you?
     
  7. Otter

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    Wrong again - see post #55.

    And yes, a suction curette (hollow tube with a knife-edged tip) is inserted into the womb. This instrument is then connected to a vacuum machine by a transparent tube. The vacuum suction, 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, tears the fetus and placenta into small pieces which are sucked through the tube into a bottle and discarded.
     
  8. Makedde

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    A suction that hard would make water out of that fetus. You wouldn't be able to see any body parts at all - and what person in their right minds digs through the mess for a hand to put on a coin so they can take a picture of it?
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The ME had obviously never heard of a tape measure.
     
  10. Otter

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    Some use a ruler in the picture. Some use common objects for scale - such as a coin.
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Why would an abortion doctor want to dig pieces out and place them on a coin and take a photo? What is the purpose of this?
     
  12. Cady

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    I looked at a dozen photos at the Priests for Life website. In every case, the authentication was done by Dr. Abigail Allen. Did the same person authenticate all the PFL photos?
     
  13. Otter

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    Like I said - the fetus IS ripped apart - bit by bit. Horrible, isn't it. But since the bones have started to form in the fingers & toes by the 9th week gestational, it would be usual that a ripped off arm would remain intact.
     
  14. Makedde

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    You betcha - same person everytime.
     
  15. Otter

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    I don't know - I have not looked at all the pictures.
     
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    So what? It could very well be that they found these aborted fetuses in a dumpster behind some abortion mill - and asked the Medical Examiner to verify the gestational age of these unborn babies.

    They find discarded aborted fetuses all the time. The Philly abortionist had stacks of them all over.

    And let's not forget this case:

    Catholic Church Mourns, Buries 17 Aborted Fetuses Found in Dumpster
     
  18. Otter

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    Did you bother to read the link I provided to the Mayo Clinic, or do you want to stay ignorant of biological fact? Jeez....

     
  19. Makedde

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    I think if the fetus had bones, it would be hurting the crap out the woman when it was born.
     
  20. Makedde

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    So what? Odd that only one ME could be found to pose these fetuses with pocket change, isn't it? Do they have anyone else willing to support their propaganda, or was this Abigail woman the only one they could find?
     
  21. Otter

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    You are improving Make. You at least said the unborn babies at 10 weeks gestational had cartilage. Before you used to claim they were 'blobs of tissue' with 'no brains'.

    I will give you that.
     
  22. Makedde

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    So you admit they have cartilage and not bones?
     
  23. Otter

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    I really don't understand your problem of using coins for scale. It is commonly done - because anyone could understand how big or little the object in question was in relationship to the coin.

    You have never seen any pictures used as evidence before for legal cases?
     
  24. Otter

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    You missed my point - again. Even if you did not know that bones start forming at 9 weeks gestational in the arms & legs - you at least acknowledged there was cartilage - rather then a 'blob of tissue'.

    I'm trying to encourage you on your studies now!
     
  25. Makedde

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    I have a problem with using coins as a means of propaganda. There is nothing wrong with simply stating that fetus is 10cm long and 2 cm wide or whatever, is there?

    Yeah yeah, it's still not much to look at though. If you saw it on a 2D ultrasound there wouldn't be much more than a blob to see.
     

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