Is California on its way to banning rodeos? Behind the growing movement to buck the event

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Ridiculous :roll: But entertaining nonetheless ;)

    Is there any wonder how easily it was to find volunteers to take a untested vaccine LMAO.. My beef sits out in a pasture basking in the sun until the butcher rolls up and puts one between it's eyes.. Pretty good life for a animal that has no other use on earth but to supply mankind with protein..
     
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    If the issue were barrel racing, there would be no law proposed for stopping that.

    I'm fully aware that there are jobs that horses love to do. As a total greenhorn, I once had the privilege of riding a horse to cut calves from a herd. The horse was totally POed at me, for good reason. And, shaking the reigns to demand freedom, it proceeded to work in a coordinated way with the others to get the job done. The horse was really good at his job.

    As for your comment on our economy being one piece of a global economy, you need to actually point out your complaint, as our standard of living fully depends on the global economy. We are 4% of the world. Pretending we are economically independent of the other 96% would be suicidal. Plus, our primary and most effective national defense system is our economic strength, coming from the international business that we do.
     
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    And their previous role was to feed lions and wolves.... in that case they were ripped to death over the course of an hour.
     
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    Electric prods, spurs, and bucking straps are used to irritate and enrage animals in rodeos. The flank, or “bucking,” strap or rope is tightly cinched around the animals’ abdomens, which causes them to “buck vigorously to try to rid themselves of the torment.”3 “Bucking horses often develop back problems from the repeated poundings they take from the cowboys,” Dr. Cordell Leif told the Denver Post. “There’s also a real leg injury where a tendon breaks down. Horses don’t normally jump up and down.”4

    When the flank strap is paired with spurring, it causes the animals to buck even more violently, often resulting in serious injuries.5 Former animal control officers have found burrs and other irritants placed under the flank strap.6 In addition, the flank strap can cause open wounds and burns when the hair is rubbed off and the skin chafes.7

    Cows and horses are often prodded with an electrical “hotshot” while in the chute to rile them, causing intense pain to the animals. Peggy Larson—a veterinarian who in her youth was a bareback bronc rider—said, “Bovines are more susceptible to electrical current than other animals. Perhaps because they have a huge ‘electrolyte’ vat, the rumen [one of their stomachs].”8
     
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    Not even! Todays cattle can't even run a mile and their hearts slpoad ;) In fact the wolves in this area "Northern" simply run them around in a circle until half a dozen or so collapse from a heart attack, and then they and all their pups feast :)

    Ya we are so cruel to the poor Bovines, :)
     
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    Meat, while tasty, is not needed for health. Factory farming maximizes profit while minimizing quality of life for the animal. So you only eat organic, free range meat?
     
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    That's a lot of wives tales for one post

    1. If you touch a stock contractors prize animals with an electric prod or cutting spur, you won't have to worry about what the bull could do to you. You'll be lucky enough theirs an ambulance on site to help you from the ass pounding you will take.

    2. Flank straps are necessary for the safety of all involved and they are provided by the stock contractor. They don't make bred bucking stock buck. They just make them kick a little higher to remove it. But more importantly, they stop the animal from bolting across the arena before they start bucking, freezing in the chute, keeping their minds on bucking on the first jump out. Nobody puts anything under a fleece lined flank strap. Its only their to guarantee consistency.

    3. More horses are injured and put down working cattle 7 days a week or pulling wagons across hot asphalt than bucking stock that works 16 seconds a month. And no 160 pound cowboy could give one of those horses a beat down. lol

    4. On our ranch we had a 7 time world champion bronc thats 26 years old used for breeding. One of thousands upon thousands of older pastured champion bucking horses used for breeding programs.

    5. Champion bred bucking stock are hands on every day. They are provided with the best grains, feed, and hay to help stay in top shape.

    6. The only spurs allowed are rollers and they are used to roll up the horses shoulders to (what is called) marking the horse out. Points are provided for your ability to maintain your balance while marking the horse. Their are no pointed or cutting spurs used on prize stock. EVER

    And thats just for starters
     
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    Are you lobbying for more regulation on cowboys?

    I don't think so. I think you're just trying for a false equivalence.
     
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    I cant agree that a life of torture for entertainment is better than being farm raised and then quickly slaughtered
     
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    Your post confirms some of what was said by the poster you responded to.

    I accept that the owner doesn't want their animal to be seriously injured.

    But, you can't argue that the animals involved in bucking are enjoying being strapped and ridden like that.
     
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    When I cook absolutely.
    We have a local butcher that has a huge open farm. I haven’t bought meat from a grocery store in a while.

    Now when we eat out — no clue. Unlikely.
     
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    I can tell you from first hand experience, if you stand in the way of loading horses or bulls, you will get run down.
    When they hear the pot (which is the cattle hauler) being banged around getting it in position to load them from the arena, they run for the gate.
    All of them even though only a few are going.

    We don't even have to herd them to the arena. I open the arena gate and one of the hands open the pasture gate a 1/4 mile away and they stampede to the arena.
    Then we have to sort them and they fight to get up front.

    Once at the rodeo arena, they get pumped up while just standing in the pens. They load in the chutes just by sliding the gates without any prodding what so ever.
    When you slide over their front flanks you can feel them ready up. They aren't fighting you or trying to bite or hurt you. They are blowing up before a flank strap is even cinched.
    Once they throw the cowboy or get picked up by the pick up men, they head for the center gate and into the derigging platform while we remove the saddle or rigging (bareback)

    They don't fight, bite, kick, or try and smash you against the rails. In fact, they respond to human touch with great enthusiasm. And next week, they run to do it all over again.
    Bucking stock (just like ranch horses) love having a job. If any animal shows signs of being tired or run down, they are sidelined which almost never happens.

    At any time I can walk into the pasture and will be greeted by 50 horses. I can tell you they enjoy their jobs.
     
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    I’ve addressed this.
     
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    Lol. If the human wants to risk his/her life, who am I to judge? I respect bodily autonomy in almost every way. How many rodeo riders die each year by a bill?
     
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    And the left is cheeky enough to blame the right for authoritarianism. They always blame the opposition for what they do themselves.
     
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    Thx for the insight...
    I knew there had to be some reason why the GOP got their asses handed to them last week...
     
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    What reason was that? You think it might have been authoritarianism? I think it was because the democrats turned out in greater numbers motivated by the Dobbs decision. The republicans were dumb enough to predict the red wave which kept republicans home. It certainly wasn't because of rodeos. Hope you enjoy the authoritarianism. One of these days they will run out of banning good things and start banning freedom directly. Government is not your friend.

    As to the election results, isn't it true that both parties were prediciting a takeover of the house by republicans and democrats holding the senate? That is the result after all. Thank the voters for providing gridlock. That will kill partisan bills for a couple of years
     
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    That is and always has been their way. This issue is no different. They complain about a couple of things that aren’t even in a professional rodeo and then use those things to try to ban our professional rodeos in our more rural communities. It’s all about power and control for them.
     
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    What about things like barrel races? Not saying the horses benefit, but are horse riding events like that all that bad for them? I ask this question with pure naivete, admittedly. Despite growing up in a rural area, I know next to nothing about horses. Saw one kick my uncle when I was a kid (though he deserved it) and I haven't socialized with them much ever since.
     
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    Though, since rodeo riders are essentially contract workers, it fits right in with California's attempt to outlaw contract workers.
     
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    ?? I doubt the issue is about safety for humans.
     
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    LOL :) Like eggs?
    I'd love to watch a rookie climb on a Brahma and then ask them "Once they, if ever they do, come out of comma" how much abused do you think that bull took :)
     
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    That would be because there is no safety for humans in Rodeo.
     
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    Woke lefties don't have the courage to pet bucking stock, much less ride one. lol
     
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    Thats why there are lil petting zoo's with goats and rabbits ;)
     
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