Is Christianity really as violent as Islam?

they both have their histories, though Muslims religious fanatics are king of that hill right now

 

If Christians were half as violent as Muslims there wouldn't be any Muslims. That's all I have to say about Christians.

 

In the context of this discussion, this means absolutely NOTHING. A secular government does NOT represent a religion. Just because most of Iraq is Muslim, that in no way makes Saddam Husseins misdeeds a reflection on Islam.

 

They both have their histories, but the question is which religion has promoted more violence throughout its history and I can't see how any disinterested observer could not award the prize to Islam, hands down.

 

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Liberals like Islam because both of them have a common enemy ... the Judeo-Christian Western culture.

 

Religious war was around well before Christianity, Islamic governments execute people for being gay, which Christian Country does that? Islam labels other religious groups as infidels, Sharia Law outlaws free speech, divorce, equal rights for women, and other basic rights. The government of Iran thinks they are obligated to destroy Israel to bring about their god's plan. The number of Islamic religious fanatics are way more than the number of Christian fanatics.

 

Most Islamic governments don't execute people because they are gay.. however they do execute pedophiles.

Perhaps you ought to do some homework in this matter.

 

The thing to understand about modern Christianity in the US is that it has become a ruse for authoritarian control.

This is the only way to explain Trumps support among evangelicals. They could care less about "Christian virtues", they just want an authoritarian government.

This makes them just as dangerous as radical Islam. Trump, the lying scumbag who brags about sexually molesting women because of his position of wealth, was largely elected by "Christians".

I was raised as a Christian THIS is not Christianity. What we have here today is pure authoritarianism.

Want more evidence: Look around for the Bible with a gun on top of it. A popular photo and one even used here as an avatar. This from the hypocrites who say "turn the other cheek".

Many so-called christians aren't even Christians. They ignore much of the new testament and adhere to the old testament, which is counter to Christian teachings.

 

Well, there was also the Cathars, Knights Templar, witch burnings, persecution of the Jews, Inquisition.. and Conquistadors accompanied by priests.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=485891&p=1066908896#post1066908896

 

During the last Christmas season I was invited to a big dinner party and the hosts were reformed Jews.. They had also invited two Muslim couples.

It was great. The food was excellent, the company was pleasant and a good time was had by all.

I think you can have it any way you want.

 

It depends on the time frame mate. Humans have been brutal to each other in the name of religion for donkeys years.

Some times is the christian man on the cloud that was used as justification and now its the Muslim man on a cloud.

Moving away from religion for a min, we see America as a far more violent country that the UK so i hope the comedy isn't lost on you when you ask the "who is more violent" question ;0)

 

Inquisiton and hung draw and quartered not enough? We all pick isolated cases to support our made up minds. If you research, the Turkish led caliphate was peaceful for 1000 years until WWII Muslims, Christians, Jews. Made the mistake of supporting Germany in wwi

 

It probably was once.

 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

Strange, no list of christian terrorist attacks seems to exist. It must be all those white people hiding it.

 

If for the fact that State terrorism isn't really considered terrorism; then yes even today the Christian world is the greatest perpetrator of violence against the weak and the innocent. But since the powerful, ruling class of the world, who happen to be White Christians, get to determine the discourse of who are good and who are evil, its the Muslims who get the bad rap. Radical Muslim terrorism is usually non-state actor, manifested in the form of bombings and hijackings, for political reasons, though cloaked in the language of religious apocalypticism. But the Christian world is the world that has the power, like a modern Roman empire. In fact, the similarities between the Roman empire's brutal occupation of Judea, and the failed Jewish uprisings in the 1st and 2nd centuries against the Romans is strikingly similar to the modern age where the Western powers dominate and exploit the Muslim world; which results in militant Muslim uprisings. Those who have power will declare the weak when they resist as "terrorists" that's how its always been throughout history.

 

No, the inquisition is not enough. It is a trifle compared to the Muslim conquest of India.

The Ottomans peaceful for a 1000 years? More like at war for a 1000 years.

The Turkish led Sultanate (not caliphate) was built on war and conquest. The Turks came from Central Asia conquering all in their path, notably the Byzantines, swept into Europe only to be turned back at the gates of Vienna. And of course everyone forgets about the Armenians.

Who told you they were peaceful for a 1000 years? I'd really like to know.

 

People who are Christian commit many crimes, but overall, most people in the 20th century were killed by atheists. Lately, radical Islam has been the largest killers. Not since the Crusades have people been killed in the name of Christianity...except for the very, very rare abortion bombing.

 

And those incidents pale in comparison to the Mogul Empire, the Ottoman Empire which pioneered modern genocide against the Armenians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

 

The question posed by the OP is rather straightforward. In response, you have managed to take that straight forward question, and twisted it so far into a pretzel, that your answer doesn't even remotely address the original question.

State terrorism "isn't really considered" terrorism, in the same way that an apple "isn't really considered" an orange. In both cases, the former is NOT the latter. What you are attempting to do is imply a parallel between war and terrorism, and then going one step further and concluding that war perpetrated by a secular state is somehow an example of the actions of the religion that the majority of citizens in that secular country practice. The actions of a secular state are in no way the actions of any particular religion, and if they were, that state would no longer be secular.

Saddam Hussein was a secular leader of a majority Muslim population, and his actions are in no way labeled as Islamic based violence. In the same vein, even if you are going to call secular western governments the biggest purveyor of violence on the planet, their actions are in no way an example of Christian based violence. By drawing a comparison between religious based violence and acts of war committed by secular governments and using that as your answer, you are so far off the actual subject that your answer is completely useless. You cannot credibly conflate religious based violence to the actions of secular governments. They are two entirely different animals.

 

The OP says "is" which refers to the present.
HISTORY refers to the past.
Fail

 

I think I have
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-punished-by-death-2/?utm_term=.73690b450cfb

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ir...ager-in-violation-of-international-law-463234

 

The Ottoman Empire expanded through violence and conquest, if you don't think so then you should look up Constantinople, Tours, and Mecca, these are just some of the more influential battles took place, there was nothing peaceful about the Turkish Caliphate

 

So you forgot the witch burnings, the slaughter of the Knights Templar and the Cathars.. The Inquisition and forced conversions....

600 million sounds like Old Testament exaggerations. The Arabs were trading with India a thousand years before Islam.

 

So what religion were Arabs following in those days then, if not Islam?