Is Christianity really as violent as Islam?

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem confused as to my position.
     
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    Even the worst atrocities of the Catholic Church never came close to the level of atrocities by Muslims against any peoples they invaded - whether the Christian countries they overran, the Hindus and Buddhists of India and the East, and the black nations of North Africa. From its origins to its expansion, the Empire of Islam was build on imperialist mass murdering and terrorist invasions on a scale people can not really comprehend, schools will not teach and the media lies about.

    Few Americans even know that all of the Middle East was Christian and the Crusades were defensive wars, nor any clue of the slaughter of Hindus, Buddhists and Africans of their ancient religions by the Muslim Empire - a slaughtering and forced conversions that has never ceased thru today. Where most their mass murdering and terrorism happening now is actually against blacks in Africa - something the media never mentions. But then maybe Margot2 agrees that black peoples of African should be forced to convert and turn their lives and their country over to Islam or be murdered.


    Again, in Margot2 either has no clue about history, or also blamed Native Americans for their destruction and they all deserved to die for resisting being invaded and killed. Islam IS the religion of murder, rape, forced submission and invasion that also is a governmental system.

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    I meant to quote Margot2. My error.
     
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    Neither holds a candle to the Vikings.

    Now THEY were violent MthrFckrs

    Seriously, its difficult to discern between culture and faith. Middle Eastern cultures are currently more violent than elsewhere (except Africa). But even the Buddhists can do bad stuff:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-dozens-of-rohingya-muslims-massacred-by-buddhists-in-rakhine-burma/

    The culture twists the religion to suit itself. Bad people profess to belong to religions, read what they want from the texts and do what they feel like. Religion doesn't kill people, People kill people./
     
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    "Can be" means nothing.
     
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    Islam is a helluva lost nicer than Animalism, let me tell you...
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Vikings did not come within 1/10th of 1% as murderous as Islam. I gather you have been watching the Viking TV series as your history source.

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    That's a helluva a standard, isn't it? Nor does Islam reach even that standard.
     
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    This is another example of how radical secular white-guilt liberals in academia have rewritten history to what they want it to be.
     
  8. dixon76710

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    As an atheist, Im not concerned about Gods killing people. Problem with Islam is that it instructs the believers today to "fight", "kill" "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until.... religion is only for Allah"
     
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    Give Muslims B-52s and satellite drones, and then you can answer your question.
     
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    History is useless now. Christianity evolved, while Islam is still living in the stone age. Literally, they still stone people as punishment.
     
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    Show no such thing. It shows that individual Christians can be a violent as individual Muslims. The DOCTRINES of the two religions are polar opposites.

    According to Islam

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
    Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

    According to Christianity

    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments
     
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    Nooooo, Christianity isn't violent because the written doctrine calls for peace. Just as Islam is violent because the written doctrine calls on believers to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until.... Religion is only for Allah"
     
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    Right..:)

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    God slaughtering people in the old testament is violent, that causes me no concern today, unless god were to descend on a beam of light down to earth.. While commandments to Muslims to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until.... religion is only for Allah" is having an effect today because religion is not yet only for Allah.
     
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    Stories of violence in the past in the OT are of no concern to us in the present day while commandments to Muslims to fight, kill, slay and smite the necks of the unbelievers today are leading to death
     
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    Well, I am glad you dropped the Holocaust from your list after being presented with evidence that Christians opposed the genocide.

    Let's move on. What Christian leaders advocated the colonization of Africa?
     
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    I see Christians beheading Mooslims in Dallas every day. I join in, if I can get off work early. Usually the guys are just wrapping up when I get there so I miss the fun.
     
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    True that. Besides the Jews promised land was only Israel not the world like in Islam
     
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    I don't fault religion when someone identifying as a certain religion, acts contradictory to the original written doctrine. I do blame the religion when they act in accordance with the doctrine.
    Shout Praise Jesus in a crowding shopping mall and some shoppers will be fearful that a sermon is about to be yelled at them whether they want to hear it or not. Some might assume something wonderful has occurred. Shout Allah Akbar and people will run and duck, because of the differences in the doctrine, the written texts.

    Same (*)(*)(*)(*) different day, as old as our nation.

    "But one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/jefferson-versus-muslim-pirates-13013.html


    BECAUSE "it was written in the Koran"
     
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    AND if I understand correctly that was a long time ago before God expelled the Jews from Israel for not being good jews, commanding them to become good citizens in the nations they scattered to and don't get to come back until their true savior comes. So even when Israel kills a Palestinian in their conflict, I would say there is nothing in the Jewish doctrine to support their actions. And Palestinians aren't Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites or Jebusites,
     
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    In the anti-abortion wars, a few years ago, a "Christian" assassinated a doctor who performed abortions. Many "Christian" leaders praised his actions.
    In the Gay wars Christian leaders regularly call for violence against Gays.

    People in search of power often use religion as a means to that end.

    It is not the religion, it is the people using religion to whip up hate.
     
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    many Christians totally supported the expulsion/deportation/extermination of the Jews

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    which Muslim leaders advocated the conquest of Spain?
     
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    So ? Did Jesus also support this ? Is this acting the way Jesus taught his disciples to act ?
     
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    Jesus commanded his disciples to turn the other cheek when attacked.

    Do you follow this commandment?

    The Council of Jerusalem, which included Apostle Paul, decided that Christians must not pray to statues, must not ingest blood, must not ingest meat from animals that were improperly slain, must not engage in sex out of wedlock and other fornication.

    do you follow these commandments to a T?
     
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