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Is Evolution Real

  1. Evolution is real

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  2. Evolution is real on the micro level only

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  3. Intelligent design is real.

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  1. OhZone

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    "Within" DNA. What a cop-out! More mumbo-jumbo to fool the average Joe.
     
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    There is evidence of people being in Australia for 60,000 years.. They arrived during the ice age when sea levels were 400 feet lower.
     
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    Nope.. they have found two genetic markers for Alz ... and have developed some very promising drugs which will halt or slow the process. The drugs stop plaque from folding into brain cells.
     
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    The JW's also say Evolution is wrong as do many other different denominational Christians, too.

    The Pope said evolution is too strong a theory to deny.
    But he has not said that the 22 names in the Genealogy SUPPORT what science has finally discovered and could now understand as scripture has ha to long refer to as "begating" of "sons" who lived for as long as 950 millennium, not the "years" we have used to date.

    Christianity NEEDS a "pope" for this job, of certifying the Bible as 100% true.
     
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    After the observation of the wave functions, those which carried the information about Quarks, collapsed, three of them combined in the Higgs Field and formed the first Hydrogen nucleus, an ionized atom with one proton.
     
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    Don't be silly Genesis starts a half million years after humankind existed..
     
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    Mothers SUE the schools later when their kids can not get into Colleges all of which require courses of study that must be taken, like Algebra and Sciences, etc.
    Law suits are why schools MAKE everyone take the courses.

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    So many idiots will tell us....
    But the Solar Clock was not even "made" until the 4th duration of the creation according to the Bible story itself.
     
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    I have read your nonsense about the "Solar Clock" before..
     
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    Or maybe we had Pangaea at the time. Likely they looked very much as they do today.
     
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    Lets remember that plate movement is on the scale of millions of years, not thousands.

    Also, several different peoples have moved into that area through the ages, some of whom have survived and some of whom have not.
     
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    Of course it took millions of years.... If you like this sort of thing... Watch "First People" on PBS.. Its a brilliant series.
     
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    LOLOL.. No.. human beings arrived in Australia about 60 thousand years ago... millions of years after the Pangea drift.
     
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    Pangea was just one of the recurring events which Geneis 1:9, 10 correctly mentions and clearly describes:

    Gen. 1:9 And (Father Nature, Reality), God, said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, (Panthalassa), and let (Pangea), the dry land appear:
    (composed of the Seven Large Tectonic Plates:
    1. North American Plate,
    2. Pacific Plate,
    3. South American Plate,
    4. African Plate,
    5. Eurasian Plate,
    6. Antartic Plate,
    7. Australian Plate),
    ... and it was so.

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    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id17.html
     
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    The desperate amd repeatedly mistaken effort to match the bible to creation science is just not a good approach.

    Such ties will fail as science progresses, refines and changes our understanding. That is what science does.

    But, religion has no such built in flexibility. Thus as we learn, the biblical model breaks.
     
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    Silly way to read the Bible which is very clear in stating that the first seven days were not 24 hour deals at all, because the Solar Clock had not been made yet.
    It was established on Era 4, after life appeared and started to use time on earth in its timing of metabolism.

    The first six "durations," (which is the better understand for the word used in Hebrew), were measured by the Geological Clock:

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    Yeah,...
    This is why the Bible is such an amazing book.
    It tells us stuff which no man could have known.

    That is, unless a previous great world existed 30,000 years ago, say.
    And the writer who stated this already KNEW all these facts which men would have forgotten.
    Or, aliens may have come and told us these things.

    But I believe these ideas were all remembered by the Unconscious mind which comes back with every new baby born
    The Unconscious genetically stored all the things we read in scripture.
    I call the Unconscious Collective Mind the great shepherd and the holder of Truth.
     
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    Plate movement being slow is an unwarranted assumption. It could as well have been sudden, couldn't it? None of us were there to know. There is evidence that the Earth has suffered cosmic catastrophes.
    Such as this description: http://humanpast.net/environment/environment10k.htm

    "More recently the book When the Earth Nearly Died When the Earth Nearly Died by D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair [1995] (reissued as Cataclysm: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.), brought together a mass of evidence that a catastrophic impact of extrasolar material occurred in 9,500 B.C. They believe that this body was ejected by the Vela supernova. They present a compelling amount of physical and other evidence of multiple impacts, giant tidal surges, massive rearrangements of the surface of the Earth, overnight mountain-building, as well as a polar shift. However, this begs the question as to how humanity could have lived through a catastrophe of this dimension, even if advanced technology was on hand. If this sort of event occured today we would be hard-pressed to survive it. Allan and Delair's book, however, is academic to a fault, and much better put together and docmented than Velikovsky. I heartily recommend it as a worthy successor to Ragnarok."
     
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    Are you really sure about that or are you repeating what some scientist hypothesized based on present Earth form and present knowledge of history?
     
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    No... based on geology, archeology and DNA techniques that have improved over the past five years.. Watch "First People" on PBS.
     
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    Just where does the bible say that?
     
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    Some Creationists think it never rained before the global flood.. and that the earth opened up and poured out hot water... Very fanciful fiction.
     
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    But, every era makes its guesses as to how to fit the Bible and science, and every era sees its own guesses or those of the past crumble - because religion is by its very nature static (eternal, in fact) while science has as its very foundation a method for making and accepting new disvoveries.

    When these are tied, those ties will crumble. For science, that has no consequences. But, religion is itself weakened when ties are made in the name of God, and then those ties crumble.

    Religions are not helped by their tie between the bible and science in the creation story, for example. It creates an opposition that the bible lost as science progressed. Thus it reduced confidence in the bible while deflecting focus from the rich meaning of the alegory.

    Religion is not helped by tying the flood story to science. It creates an opposition that the bible lost, thus detracting from the meaning of the alegory, let alone reducing confidence in the bible as a whole.

    When change comes to science, it is an advancement. When religion finds it must change, it necessarily reduces confidence.
     
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    http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/7.htm
    Funny how almost every written history has an incidence of a great flood..but you know..it didn't happen,right?Is that your position?
     
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