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Is Evolution Real

  1. Evolution is real

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  2. Evolution is real on the micro level only

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  3. Intelligent design is real.

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  1. OhZone

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    http://humanpast.net/environment/environment10k.htm
    Also based on Geology and archeology.

    Most scientists are too arrogant to just say "We don't know".
    I have to give them credit tho for continuing their efforts. If only they wouldn't come off so smart-assed with every discovery they make as if they finally have the ultimate answer. They are still victims of their own schooling.
    Ask yourself why so many anomalies are hidden away or "lost".
    Only recently have the "coneheads" been shown to the public.
    DNA results say they were not human. So what were they?
    http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/...eleased-The-Results-Prove-They-Were-Not-Human
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    Most scientists know what they KNOW and admit their limitations when they don't know...
     
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    The book you reference concerns an event that is very recent, geologically speaking.. Again, plate techtonics happens over tens or hundreds of millions of years. A few thousand years is geological yesterday.
     
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    The Paracas culture was an Andean society between approximately 800 BCE and 100 BCE, with an extensive knowledge of irrigation and water management and significant contributions in the textile arts.

    The guy that made the announcement is the curator of the museum and runs a tour company called Hidden Mysteries or something similar. The geneticist who made the claim that the DNA isn't human wants to remain anonymous and states they can't get money for the genetic testing..

    I sure wouldn't take the claims as gospel since its never been peer reviewed.
     
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    Wow. You complain that scientists don't say "l don't know" enough.

    Then, you nail this guy for saying he doesn't know!
     
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    I am not really sure if nothing could create something.
     
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    For those who don't agree with evolution, how do you explain drug resistance in bacteria over time?
     
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    Nothing didn't create something.....Quantum Evolution is the process by which Quantum Particle/Wave Forms arrage themselves from a Quantum Level to Atomic then Molecular and then we get a Virus which is not alive by the way and then we get Life.

    A Virus has DNA....but is not alive and it shows just how close the Inanimate is the Animate.

    Within this year you will see a University or Private Lab certified to have achieved GENESIS in the Lab.

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    You forget that Modern Science only replaced an older, Aristotle set of thoughts, which people did fit into how they understood the Bible.
    Both scripture and Aristotle fit well until the days of Galilleo.

    The amazing fit of those wrong interpretations and Aristotle's science were only possible because the Bible writers were told to tell the story to fit that fake science, but also, on the ready for the truth which modern Scientific Methods now explained today.

    This amazing writing understood how men would think and fit the Bible for them, as a locked book they really misunderstood, but which we can now read as Truthful.
    Certainly, you do not believe that what we know today will change so radically that the interpretation is wrong.
    Reality is the almighty, and Truth is his son, too.

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    http://kofh2u.tripod.com/id17.html
     
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    So, here, you show us that Modern Science is valid and the things I post which correspond to what the Bible says is pretty firm.
     
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    You believe the Bible.

    It is fine if what you think has convinced you.
    But these people do not believe the things which have convinced you that Genesis is fine.
    Why fight against what I tell them, which is the Science they already believe???

    Is you plan that unless people believe the way you did, they can't believe the Bible???
    How would that bring science educated people to salvation if they deny your interpretation and don't even read scripture at all?
     
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    Hmmm,...
    I never said that the first Wave Functions before the Big Bang were created from "nothing."

    Energy existed which produced those Wave Functions.
    Energy needs no Space/time to contain it, and is itself massless.

    Einstein explain to us that Energy can transform onto Matter and the Space/time it requires.
     
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    First of all if you read about how the New and Old Tesaments were put together...you would know no one like me is worried about SALVATION.

    People are free...at least in the U.S....to believe whatever they want to believe.

    What I believe makes the Biblical System look like a bunch of Kinergardners wrote it.

    There is a LOT more going on than people understand.

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    I see no possibility of you supporting your chronology.

    And, yes, science continues to progress. There is no way to discuss all the different interpretations of the bible - which supports my point, as that number goes up and down based in part on scientific progress.
     
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    I wish to know the source of that energy that can transform onto matter and space/time.

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    Then where did this quantum particle came from?.
     
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    I don't believe anyone here is seeing evolution for what it is...."evolution" is a concept created by humans to describe the world around him....just like the word "God". God and evolution coexist in a way. The entire universe is a process of evolution...this implies there was a beginning of the universe.....because we see things evolving...like conscious outlooks and the physcial universe. In reality, nothing has ever changed. There is nothing we have ever done or can ever change, only the illusion that it appears to be can fade us out of awareness.
     
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    You don't need to see any support for my comparison of what scripture actually says with the true facts.
    Just read what us written in Genesis and realize it compares one-to-one with science ideas:


    Gen 1:1 says a Big Bang beginning did happen.
    Gen 1:2 says the formless disk of rocks rotation the Sun was void of global shape, which was true.
    Gen 1:3-5 says the Dark Cosmic Age existed before there was any light in the Universe.
    Gen 1:6-8 describes the forming of an atmosphere above and waters below.
    Gen 1:9-10 describes "all the waters under heaven gathered together into one place," which was a Pangea-like truth.
    Gen 1:11-13 explains that the Plant Kingdom came before the Animal Kingdom, which was true.
    Gen 1:14-19 tells us that God assigned the Sun and Moon and Stars to keep time on Earth. ("made" in Hebrew means "assigned," NOT "created.")
    Gen 1:20-31 explains about the animals diversifying into herds of mammals, and finally, man, made to image "Reality," mentally, in the form of Truth inside his mind.
     
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    Yes, you have the right idea.
    Reality is this strange other thing which co-exists with our mind.
    People and places and things are all part of the Reality we believe in and take seriously.

    But it has been what we call Truth that has convinced us of a Reality we can only envision.
    Truth makes us bow down before what we believe is Reality.
    We do this in order to survive and avoid a possible second death of extinct of our species.

    The Bible is just saying that Reality is God for us, and the grace of this "god" is Truth also exists so we can understand "Him."
     
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    Science tells us that Energy can not be defined.

    Energy comes in seven different forms, like Electrical Energy, Light Energy, Mechanical Energy, etc.
    Energy is either active, (Kinetic), or passive, (Potential).
    Energy can be measured by the work it does.

    But we do not know where it comes from or how it exists.
    The Physics definition for Energy is that it is an "ability."
    Energy has the "ability" to make things move or to do work.

    We have no more information available to us.
    All we know is that Energy is the spirit of Reality, which does the work of unfolding frame after frame.
     
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    The Bible is unconcerned with your personal survival, whether you do live longer or die soon.
    Salvation is concerned with obeying the Law of Survival for our species, and avoiding the dead of mankind, i.e.; extinction forever.
     
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    Yes it is recent. When you look at the map of the world - particularly the The outline of South America and Africa that were once together - you will know that this separation was recent. If it was millions of years don't you think the action of the water would have long ago extinguished any similarities.
     
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    He doesn't have any choice. To put forth any suggestion that they might be E.T.'s - the Gods of yesteryear that all cultures talk about - that came from the sky would not be Politically Correct. Can't shake the status quo, you know.
     
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    LOLOL.. No the separation of Pangea was not recent......... it was 100 million years ago.. Read up on why the animals of Australia and New Zealand are unique.... since it split off from Antarctica.
     
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    David, do you think that those 22 names might be code for this:
    "Human genome. The human genome is the genome of Homo sapiens. It is made up of 23 chromosome pairs with a total of about 3 billion DNA base pairs. There are 24 distinct human chromosomes: 22 autosomal chromosomes, plus the sex-determining X and Y chromosomes."
    The bible is really a book of secret science written in allegorical code. Pity that it has been corrupted in the interest of political control.
     
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