Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

It is defined in the texts which I referenced. Why does such right offend you?

 

You mean the single Supreme Court case you referenced?

What makes you think that it offends me? I take no issue with such a right, but that doesn't mean I support it being invented out of thin air.

 

And you are completely avoiding the point. Why?

 

Harms another person. As far as I see it, if you want to harm yourself, that is your prerogative.

 

If I have to explain that to you, you shouldn't be in this discussion.

 

Help make better choices?

 

No, also other cases and the amendments which I listed which support the right to privacy.

You seem to have a huge problem with the fact that we have such right.

 

You are wrong. I have already answered this question. You not liking the answer doesn't mean you need to ask it repeatedly.

Murder harms others. End of that rabbit hole.

Actually, people are charged and sometimes jailed for attempting suicide.

If you believe that only rape (or incest, assumption) should be allowable for abortion, that means you don't believe that other abortions should be, therefore forcing people to give birth to children they very well may not be able to care for, either emotionally and/or financially. Someone (plurality) ends up supporting these children. Why not you?

Have you read your own posts?

The idiocy of that statement doesn't deserve an extended answer.

 

At least I'm interesting ...

 

I NEVER said either childbirth or motherhood were slavery....WHY ARE YOU MAKING THINGS UP? That makes it appear you have no good argument and know it.


I said CLEARLY : "If they ban abortion they are abolishing the right to bodily autonomy for pregnant women....making them slaves..""

FORCING women to gestate is slavery...SEE, NO WHERE did I say childbirth or motherhood were slavery.

Try to keep your "imagination" under control....using it makes your argument worthless.

Get a DICTIONARY...AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT WORDS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS....OR MAYBE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND NEED TO KEEP REPEATING SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE..

 

Why do you keep insisting that women have to kill their kids to have life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? That is one of your odder statements..

Oh, just ANOTHER pointless repeat...

 

So? It is STILL a fetus...why would the fetus of a rapist be any less "innocent LIFE" than a fetus conceived due to consensual sex?

It is still a fetus and abortion kills it....why would you want it killed if it's "innocent life" .

Abortion is exactly the same, same procedure, same outcome, whether the woman was raped or had consensual sex.

So the obvious conclusion is Anti-Choicers want to punish women who had consensual sex.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
banning abortion is ALL and ONLY about punishing women for having consensual sex and NOT about that PRECIOUS LIFE, the FETUS..."""

OH?? Then WHY do you and other Anti-Choicers want to make an exception for abortion due to rape?????




HOW is that fetus different from a fetus due to consensual sex ?....there is NO difference except for how the woman got pregnant....and that does NOT change the fact that abortion kills the fetus..whether conceived by rape or consensual sex..

 

One thing we know: Pregnant women refer to their 'fetus' as 'my baby', so they do acknowledge it is in fact a baby even though it has not been born yet. No doubt women who had abortions wonder what would have come of that baby if they had not had the abortion. That thought probably stays with them for the rest of their lives. Its a tragedy, and as I have said before, the best way to reduce these tragedies is to reduce unplanned pregnancies in the first place.

 

I fall apart??? What? you're the one saying that the fetus just floats inside the woman, unattached, for 9 months for no reason.....

 

Yes, maybe but for most women, they have an abortion and give off a big sigh of relief.....


They say "my baby" because they are not in a debate, not using scientific facts to prove a point ...

It isn't "in fact" a baby...it is a FETUS IN FACT AND SCIENCE AND REAL LIFE.

It is no more a "baby" than it is a teenager or adult or toddler...WHY CALL it a baby, why not an adult? That's what it will be SOMEDAY...

English language: Has different words for different things....for a REASON....

 

You're welcome. In all my life, I have NEVER met a woman that actually knew when she could and couldn't get pregnant during her monthly cycle. Do you know?? And I don't know what this 'larcs' acronym refers to, is it specific to Australia?? And what is this supposed extreme cost? Post it.

 

Maybe for the time being.

It's both. A fetus is a baby human being.

 

And one of those reasons is to provide a smokescreen, a way to lie to oneself to soothe one's conscience.

 

Please don't try to pretend you know every woman's mind and feelings...here's a surprised, women are all different from one another...

No, a fetus is a fetus and a baby is a baby and a teenager is a teenager ...different words for different things...that's why we have language..

OK, you debate from a Hallmark Movie of the week point of view and I'll stick to facts.


Women say "my baby" because they are not in a debate, not using scientific facts to prove a point ...

It isn't "in fact" a baby...it is a FETUS IN FACT AND SCIENCE AND REAL LIFE.

Anti-Choicers use the term "baby" for emotional appeal...to make it seem that the Gerber baby is being aborted.....

They use emotional appeal because they have no science or facts or laws to back up their need to destroy women's rights.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yes, maybe but for most women, they have an abortion and give off a big sigh of relief.....


They say "my baby" because they are not in a debate, not using scientific facts to prove a point ...

It isn't "in fact" a baby...it is a FETUS IN FACT AND SCIENCE AND REAL LIFE.

It is no more a "baby" than it is a teenager or adult or toddler...WHY CALL it a baby, why not an adult? That's what it will be SOMEDAY...

English language: Has different words for different things....for a REASON....

WHO is "lying to themselves"?

Anti-Choicers who really know it isn't a Gerber Baby but a ZEF that gets aborted?

Ya, I suppose they have to lie if they want to destroy women's rights...but I doubt their conscience bothers them on that score..

 

Have you ever been close to a woman who lost a baby through miscarriage?

 

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So you discuss, with EVERY woman you meet, her reproductive cycle ? WOW, you must be very popular at parties !!

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yes, maybe but for most women, they have an abortion and give off a big sigh of relief.....


They say "my baby" because they are not in a debate, not using scientific facts to prove a point ...

It isn't "in fact" a baby...it is a FETUS IN FACT AND SCIENCE AND REAL LIFE.

It is no more a "baby" than it is a teenager or adult or toddler...WHY CALL it a baby, why not an adult? That's what it will be SOMEDAY...

English language: Has different words for different things....for a REASON....



WHO is "lying to themselves"?

Anti-Choicers who really know it isn't a Gerber Baby but a ZEF that gets aborted?

Ya, I suppose they have to lie if they want to destroy women's rights...but I doubt their conscience bothers them on that score..

Have you ever NOT evaded addressing posts you quote? I mean the actual CONTENT of the post?

...without a segue to an unrelated topic???

 

Yes, we use different words to refer to human beings in different stages of life: Fetus, baby, toddler, child, teenager, young adult, middle-age, elderly, etc

Different in some ways, and same in other ways. Even if they think it was the right thing to do, most still wonder what that baby might have been. At the same time, some might manage to purge it out of their memory. As you say, I don't know the minds of all of them, and neither do you.