Is the young generation lazy?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Really? English is not her first language.....she has speaking English only a few years. But I will agree with you that life experience can make a difference.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Yep, outsourcing is a major cause of the economic woes. I remember the debate in the 90's about it. Some said it was a job killer and others said it would boost our economy. I worked outside the US for a while and seen it up close. It is a job killer there is no question about it.

    Illegal immigration is another job killer. I see it all the time. It has been another thing that some said would grow our economy....it hasn't.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's pure trash, as the government can federalize any corporation if it feels the need, or boot them...
     
  4. FreshAir

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    agreed... it had short term gains, but long term it's a cancer to the economy....

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    yeah, we saw what happen to Microsoft when they abused their monopoly didn't we.. hand slap
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm simply saying you underestimate the power of the government if they choose to or ever need to do something. In the current environment business wins out, but put the screws to it, and we'll see something else. It is rare that the government ever really flexes its full power, but if they ever do, we'll all see a different world...
     
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    only if you can get all of those in government to agree... good luck with that...

    little corps of course... mega corps are the ones were talking about here... the too big to fails....

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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In almost every aspect of reality you are absolutely correct. In the few aspects on the verge, you would be totally wrong. In the most extreme situation, none of us ever wants to see the full power of the government doing what they can do... Nothing is too big to fail, nobody is invulnerable, and the costs of such stupidity are enormous!
     
  8. FreshAir

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    I would find another college if the one I was paying to go to was "dumbed" down
     
  9. Nat Turner

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    +Ever notice how, since Moses, young people are lazier and lazier and the world keeps going to hell in a handbasket but nver quite seems to get there and instead keeps progressing? In 40 years the present day youth will be (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)in' and moanin' about the as-yet-unborn.
     
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    not true, if you are a mega corp and pad enough hands... your too big to fail

    the worst that may happen is a hand slap and maybe even a name change....

    now if the padding of hands stop... then all bets are off

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    one other thing that is causing crime is prohibition, when you see people in your neighborhood making tons selling a product many people want, you may grow up wanting to sell that product

    the alternative for many, is working for min wage asking if they want fries with that...

    it's a logical choice and one many make...

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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    i'm confused.
     
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    Nonsense, you think businesses dreamed up the employer mandate, higher taxes, stifling regulations, carbon credits? C,mon.
    There are many examples of crony capitalism occurring these days. That's a far cry from corps actually controlling govt.
     
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    They all are. It is the only way these kids can graduate.

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    ....and laziness.
     
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    Yep, we should call them the Obama Generation. Don't worry, play golf!
     
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    When an entire generation of MEN and WOMEN in college DON'T consider themselves to be adults . . . then a nation has got problems. To far too many young adults college becomes just a way to artificially extend childhood for another half decade before they have to -- groan! -- grow up and assume the dreary responsibilities and hardships of adulthood . . . as they are finally approaching their mid-twenties or (in some cases) their early thirties. Sweet!
     
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    Because we don't live in the time anymore when anyone can become a scientist. You have to spend years learning the basics until you can get to the point where you can be a scientist. And it's not like the colleges have any desire to shorten the length of how long it takes to get a degree. After all, why do they want to depart with their moneybags?

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    I'll give her credit for that.

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    It's not the size of the government, rather the accountability of the people claiming to represent us.
     
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    Hahahahaha! Oh the unintentional irony!
     
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    Eh, missing it.
     
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    I know . . . which is both funny and totally awesome! Have a nice posting day. I have to go get some work done now. Bye!
     
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    Alright, have a good day.
     
  22. Dale Cooper

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    Not necessarily. Long gone are the days of long term, gold watch retirement, employment. I started out working for a company where it was not at all unusual for people to retire after 40+ years. That started changing about 25 years ago. I noted a drastic change when a family owned, medium sized company I worked for sold to a large (huge) company from back east. The new management couldn't have cared less about employees or tenure. They blew in and started making changes that we thought we'd never see. Concern for employees flew right out the window.

    Soon thereafter, I moved to a different state and started working for one of the biggest tech companies. It was appalling. Young people were hired and fired on a whim. There was no place for loyalty. It took years for me to get that out of my system. Young people today have no idea what company/employee loyalty means. It's gone, poof, vanished.

    I don't necessarily blame the youngsters. It's the new way of life.
     
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    No, I think the problem lies in the naivety of the baby boomers. In their day, you went to college, graduated, got a job in your field and stayed there for the duration of your working life. You slowly moved up the corporate ladder and were at the top of your field when you retired. That ain't how it works now.

    College is literally 800% more expensive (with inflation) than it used to be. Kids are getting into huge amounts of debt to get a college degree. Upon graduation, they are unable to find ANY work, much less work in their field, and they are having to move back in with their parents. (hence, the boomerang generation) If they do find work, its unskilled labor not in their field with no upward mobility. The baby boomers have failed miserably to keep the same work environment they grew up in for the generation following them. So please forgive us if we don't want to get up at 5am to go flip eggs at McDonalds for 7.25 an hour with our college degrees and 40,000 in student debt. I doubt seriously you'd have had much get-up-and-go in that situation either. Those that live on their own have food stamps and other handouts because they can't find a job, or a good paying job. We are told by our parents to go to college, study hard, get a degree and you'll get a good job. That's not at all what happens. Reality: You're stuck with debt you can't get rid of or pay off because you can barely find a job that pays your basic bills. You have supervisors who grew up in the 70's who just can't understand why you have no motivation to scrub toilets when you studied really hard for that 3.5GPA business degree, and yet you're making less now than you did in high school. That's what happened to me. The first job I got after college was for 1.75/hr less than I was making at a job 3 years prior with just a high school diploma. I was sweating my ass off pumping jet fuel into airliners wondering where I went wrong, with the ink still drying on my business degree. The higher paying job I had before, with just the high school diploma, was a desk job. I remember looking out the window and watching it rain. Now, with my college degree, I was out IN the rain making 20% less than I used to sitting at the desk. Damn, I'm sure glad I went to college! *rolleyes

    You want to know the sad reality? Now people are saying don't go to college. Go to work immediately after high school. You'll have 4 more years of work experience than the poor sucker that followed his parents instructions and went to college and you won't have any student debt to worry about. Without that debt, your credit rating will be higher because your income/debt ratio will be MUCH better, so you'll be able to get financing for a car, house, etc. Remember, employers are always looking for people 3-5 years of experience in a field. Who has that, the college grad who is just entering the working world with debt up to his eyeballs, or the high school grad that's been working for the 4 years that the college grad was in college? Hint: It's NOT the guy with $40,000 in debt.

    Now I have 2 college degrees and I'm making a few dollars above minimum wage working for a portable sanitation company, and I'm lucky to have that.

    In the latter scenerio I gave you, just how much motivation to work would YOU have?

    12 years ago, when I was still living with my parents, my neighbor was talking to me and she said, "You know, your generation is the first generation who doesn't have it better than your parents." Finally, someone who GETS IT.
     
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    Some do yes. Not all.

    Of course these days the government encourages such laziness more and more every decade. So of course more young people ( and older ones ) respond.
     
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    Participating in today's civilization and going along with what it deems important and vital is not worth the effort, time, sweat, or blood. Conforming to expectations so that you can be labeled a "contributor" has no interest to me. There are lazy people everywhere, both adult and youth, but their laziness in my eyes is their apathy towards changing the status quo. The idea of being a slave to an economy or a slave to what is expected is no way to live.
     

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