Is the young generation lazy?

since you brought it up. no child left behind messed up a lot of stuff. kids (who are now adults) grew up thinking they had to be rewarded for everything. even failure. they lost more of the will to compete and be the best or do the best they can do.

 

You mean since G.W. Bush was a spoiled little rich boy slacker and because Barack Obama was the poster child for the Peter Principle, inserted by handlers into everything that ever mattered -- politically speaking -- the Millennials decided that spoiled slackers and incompetent narcissists would be their role models in life? Cool!

 

Actually i do live on the beach and I don't live with my parents. I make enough money to eat and to pay my one or two bills with my roommates by me selling my art. I also get free food from a couple of local restaurants that we are friends with every now and then. Life is good.

 

Awesome. So why don't more do like you and choose to live at home and just give up? Obviously you don't believe in that lifestyle.

 

Not like it is today. Not by a long shot.

In my day, kids could have lemonade stands, no problem.

These days, they have to get permits and pay tax.

That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

What on God's Green Earth are you babbling about?

Never mind. I'm not interested.

 

People can ultimately choose what they want, for now, but I don't envy the millions of people who allow themselves to be slaves to money and to corporations. If it were up to me I'd bring down most companies and economies.

 

Nobody says work for a corporation. But if you just do nothing then you're a slave for sure.

 

Nobody really does nothing but I'd rather see a million people resisting things such as refineries, malls, dams, deforestation, mining, politicians, authority, and a list of other things than to see them "contribute" to modernity. Whether through direct action or basic civil disobedience. That's more "doing" than what most "normal" people do for this planet every day.

 

So no mining... Good luck with your net

No deforestation... Population increase means all forest in the world will at one point or another be gone

No refineries... Think about the repercussions...

No authority... Ignorance at its finest.

What I'm trying to say is, "Hippies".

 

If I lost my internet I wouldn't shed a tear. I have it so that I can keep up with some groups that I am part of and that's about it, and commenting on here a little obviously now.

As for deforestation and population increases you pretty much solved it. The human population needs to be reduced dramatically. Not only for the planets sake but for humans sake as well. Our current civilization is not sustainable.

As for refineries the current repercussions are worse than getting rid of them.

Dams do more harm than good

Most authority is meant to oppress in favor of the privileged or the favored. Why do you want that?

 

We have variations in what we believe the definition of authority means.

Refineries are needed at this point in time. (Until one of the oil companies releases the patent for cars that run on H2O.) Without them, you and most others will suffer catastrophically. (I will not, I have enough MRE's to last a family of 6 for 15+ years and a cement walled basement, floor and ceiling)

I agree with you on the population issue. (Mother nature fixes these problems with time)

Mining we need, we need metals. That's been a basic since 4,500 B.C.E. (Before the population issue)

Dam's I agree with you. Other than a couple who have indeed helped nature and humans. (Rivers where there are no migratory fish)

 

They are just realists. Going to work every day is a real pain-in-the-ass, and not really worth the trouble.

 

Wow! Really?

 

With the gov't handouts available, yea, really.

 

Opting out of the military industrial complex is not opting out of life, just a certain BS lifestyle. Eventually, everyone is responsible.

 

First off, I do not believe in generalisations such as "All young/old people are lazy." There are hard working people, and there are less hard working people in every demographic, and there are valid (to those concerned) reasons for each philosophy. There is virtue in contributing to the well-being of society, and there is virtue in making every effort to not being a burden (financial or otherwise) upon society. But there is no virtue in labour (physical or intellectual) itself - sure there are health benefits from physical effort, but that can be achieved doing something you enjoy, rather than digging ditches for a pittance.

So let's cease and desist with this 'lazy youth who have abandoned the Protestant Work Ethic because they have everything handed to them on a silver platter' whinge.

And there are nobler ambitions than climbing the greasy pole, and I am frequently appalled at the philosophy that claims the legitimate aim of further education is the earning of a higher salary.

I am fortunate inasmuch as my family's expectations of me are such that I am not forced to work in my teens at a 'would you like fries with that' form of penal servitude, but I am nonetheless expected to gain the qualifications necessary for a professional practice. It is a lot of hard work (I am reading for a double degree) and, as the only child of a widowed mother, my personal values will not allow me to simply drop out and live on a beach somewhere (something I am often tempted to do). It would greatly disappoint my mum who has sacrificed much to ensure that I have a first class education, and I couldn't do that to her.

Many people in my age group who are my companions, work as hard, if not harder, than do I, and are less fortunate as far as their family's financial status, and personal circumstances are concerned. I would classify none of them as lazy.

I am reminded of a newspaper editorial published in the 1930s about how indolent and 'feckless' were the youth of those days. A very few years later, it was the 18 and 19 year old young men, who went directly from Public School classrooms, and the halls of Cambridge and Oxford, to the cockpits of Hurricanes and Spitfires. A great many never returned - the life expectancy of a new RAF fighter pilot was measured in weeks, not years. 'The young' have come in for similar criticisms since the time of Plato - it is perhaps the nature of things.

 

While I agree with most of that it is ironic that you're probably posting all of this on an iPhone.
Apple who is one of the biggest, crookedest, authoritarian corporations around who use slave labour. And even if it is not Apple it is one of the other companies whom do the same things.

Like a wannabe political activist rebel who wears nike sneakers and has smart phones and is at an occupy wallstreet rally.

Sorry but if you didn't live in a warm place you'd be working so you could have a roof over your head.

But it works out for you that you don't but don't get it twisted. This isn't you being a rebel and living within your ideals. It just worked out this way that you could live like this.

 

some of us believe in goading our elected representatives to actually have Faith in Capitalism from public venues, especially in Congress assembled.

 

Wow!! Good point though.

 

I agree, but it doesn't make it any easier.

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Sure, I agree, but there is the problem, the fact that there isn't anything we can look forward to.

 

You can't just be like I give up. That's inhumane.

 

Any young people with faith on this site? Anybody with the will and determination to forge your own future and not feel sorry for yourself?

 

many corps no longer value the employee, thus many employees no longer values the corp

the other problem is once a teen has entered the legal system, it's hard for them to change as it follows them for life.. the war on drugs has harmed society more then the drugs themselves

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Young generation is no worse nor no better than any other generation. Some young people have always done the above.

Remember the quote attributed to Socrates:

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Just like young people when I was young, and young people when my parents were young......

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And when I took some undergrad courses as a 25 yr old, I thought the same. Young people are just young. They are dumb and lazy. This isn't a new thing, and I'm sure they will be saying the same thing about future young people.

 

The standard for obesity changed in 1998, so about half of that effect of increased obesity is by changing the definition--i.e. the new definition caused about 10% more people to be considered obese. The thing is, in 1998, when this happened, I predicted that obesity would be viewed as an epidemic soon. I was correct.

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9806/17/weight.guidelines/