Is there any way America can improve its image in the world?

I already told you, their capabilities were not where near the level they are now, and they were pursued nowhere near as aggressively as they are now. Again, you are failing to address my question: replicate the Bin Laden raid over again for every Al Qaeda cell you target vs. occupy a country that the enemy simply moves out of and into another country. Tell me WHY your strategy makes more sense and what possible benefit occupyign Afghanistan gets you.

 

First of all because your strategy was tried by the Clinton Administration and didn't work. Secondly, because if a terrorist group can use the reources of a state, it is futile to ignore the threat coming from that state.

 

Why should americans care?

 

Well since drones and spec ops raids are mostly the only ways you've successfully managed to take out Al Qaeda so far, I'm not seeing how your ground invasion strategy has really contributed to that success. All it does is give your enemy more targets. Again: no one is giving any reason as to why occupying Afghanistan will somehow solve your Al Qaeda problem.

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Mechanized no, and the bombing was more accurate. Carrier fleet yes. But it is how you invaded Iraq.

 

US military efforts in Afhanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan, Niger, etc. helped kill thousands of Al Qaeda and al qaeda-affiliated fighters. You apparently would have preferred to fight them in North America or Europe.

 

So because Clinton failed at it, that automatically means that strategy will never work ever? Try convincing JSOC and SOCOM of that now, since the exact strategy of fast strike ops you're criticizing is exactly what they've been using to eliminate Al Qaeda hideouts, including Bin Laden.

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In all those countries except Afghanistan and Iraq, you did so without occupying them, you simply sent drones and commandos after them. Do not put words in my mouth as I never said the latter assertion you make. But you have still failed to demonstrate the occupying Iraq and Afghanistan nets you anything, especially since there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before you invaded.

 

Again you seem to have a problem with the facts. Your problem, not mine.

 

This is a pointless statement. Do I need to go through a step-by-step strategic analysis of why fast strike ops are superior to conventional military tactics for dealing with terrorists? Why don't you read David Petraeus' report on this very subject when he took command in Afghanistan and endeavoured to get away from the tactics you champion and use the tactics I champion. Funny how things turned out, since more Al Qaeda have been killed using drones and spec ops raids than were ever killed in direct combat with conventional forces. Still going to insist the fast and stealthy way doesn't work?

 

Think about what you just said. "All it does is give your enemy more targets".
Sort of painted yourself in a corner with that don't ya think?
If your statement is true and I agree it is wouldn't the reverse also be true? War is a two way street you know.

The problem with determining effectiveness of targeting higher ups using conventional forces is we seldom leave much behind but syrup.

 

Well, hell, since America is so bad, let's give em what they want, create a nice toasty Dresden in every country full of ingrates and "commenters on the wrongs of the US," roast their babies in the conflagration like marshmallows, give them something real to cry about. Sound good?

 

I have faith in America. I have faith that someday we'll understand that you can't kill an ideology.

 

Parents just came back from a trip to AU and New Zealand. Not a single bad word spoken about the US in the month they were there from the locals or on TV.

But who cares what people think? As long as the world buys our stuff, uses our products and services, copies everything we do, begs for our help in time of crisis, begs for money, they can claim they hate us all they want.

 

Or we could've nuked the entire area and said, OOOOPS =)

 

Forgotten Iraq already?

 

So here we have it. The delusional thinking of someone who has passed through a couple of countries as a guest with his hearing-aid switched off, the "we don't care" response of other posters, and threats to nuke people who have the temerity to confess a dislike of America.

That will improve its image no end, won't it? Americans, especially conservatives seem to think they can afford a bad image. Maybe that used to be true. The "like it or lump it" approach. But the world is changing. The US has been shown to be militarily inept and will not risk a serious confrontation - viz Syria. Economically it is up against bigger and growing players. Most of whom seek mutual co-operation without duress. Especially China.

There will come a time when the rest of the world won't care about the US.

 

Of course, it does not fit your narrative....

 

Lunch....who is we?

 

The Royal Me. I spent some time in England.

 

Makes sense....multiple you.

 

Some day I may introduce you to Breakfast, Dinner and Supper.

But High Tea is rather shy.

 

I am growing tired of your American bashing...please put it on the table so I can address it. I am not messy and will get to the point.

 

There you have it.
Stop murdering people, interfering in other countries' politics and invading places and you'll be far better thought of.
After that, fund a load of educational projects and essential services.

No one will hate you and, bonus, it'll be a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

LoL don't mistake Obama's penchant for being a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) for Americas willingness to kick the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of someone.

The 7th largest army in the world was decimated in two weeks. We had a kill ratio in Iraq and Afghanistan the likes of which the world has never seen. Something ridiculous like 32:1. We could have completely wiped out either country if we had been so inclined to do so.

Syria might prove to last a little longer a month or two but we would stomp them into oblivion. There are only two countries on earth that could stand up for longer than 6 months against the fully unleashed might of the American military and a populous that was united in defense of our home.

That would be China and Russia.

If you or anybody else in any other country doesn't like us, my answer would be, "(*)(*)(*)(*) you".

 

Stop excepting funding...we will be on our way.

 

Yes.

TRULY dedicate itself to freedom, liberty, education of all, scientific advancement and the ACTUAL well-being of its people.

This sh__ we're doing now, ain't the above.