Israel Is Not The Bad Guy

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Have you noticed all the calls now for Israel to "pause" the war. Politicians, the media, certainly the Arabs, college kids, and even President Biden are calling for Israel to "pause". Seems every war Israel is in is because someone attacked them. Then when Israel is kicking butt so many want Israel to stop. Now I ask you this one simple question -- Of all these people speaking out, is anyone only calling for Hamas to release the innocent hostages? Biden says he is working to get them released, others want them released. But where are the demonstrations with signs calling for Hamas to "Release the hostages". Where are the headlines in the media saying "Release the hostages"?
    Israel gets attacked, it's citizens killed, and they strike back only to be made to look like the bad guys. Release the damn hostages, Hamas.
     
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    In the immortal words of Tupac, “people love to scream peace after they start some ****.”
     
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    The enemies of humankind first reveal themselves by rejoicing in the slaughter of Jews.

    Israel is the only nation on earth that:
    • inhabits the same land,
    • bears the same name
    • speaks the same language
    • and worships the same God
    that it did 3,000 years ago. Israelis are not colonizers, they are indigenous.
     
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    "israel" takes bloody revenge. They don't care about the hostages. :(

    I think they want Hamas to murder them too, so they have more reason to kill (innocent) Palestinians. :(
     
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    That’s why Israel should just kick them all out. Then nobody has to worry about the Israelis wanting to kill Palestinians.
     
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    And Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
     
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    Hitler did something similar with the Jews. He first threw them into Polish ghettos and forced labor camps, before deciding to kill them all. :(

    As you can see, Hitler was the best teacher for the Zionists. :(
     
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    No they aren't.
     
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    Relax, it's not for us to understand, the devils generals in Washington have all this killing and waring well in hand ;)
     
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    Given the opportunity do you think the people of Palestine would do that to the Jews?
     
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    Who attacked whom first?
     
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    Israel attacked them in 1967 and has occupied there since.

    Hamas is not the good guy but then neither is israel.
     
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    NBC to Hamas Spox: How Can You Demand a Cease-Fire After Pledging More 10/7 Attacks?

    'Literally the only major American news outlet to even offer a single report on the declaration by Hamas of unending massacres for Israel managed to get an interview with the leader who promised to annihilate Israel yesterday. Not only did they get the interview, NBC News Matt Bradley stuck the landing with the right question, too.'

    Hamad The Jew Hater's Mask Slips:

    'When Bradley asks, “How can you ask for a cease-fire — how can you ask Israel to stop their aggression — when you go on television in Lebanon, here last week, and say that you will continue your aggression, you will continue to do October 7 again and again?”

    “What do you want us to do,” Hamad responds angrily, “stop?”

    'Hamad insists that Hamas has a “legal right” to conduct October 7-style massacres against Israel:'

    'according to international law, Hamas is a terrorist organization and its October 7 slaughter crimes against humanity. Hamad may not want to stand on “international law” four weeks after their baby-beheading and civilian-massacring blood orgy across southern Israel. Furthermore, according to international law, that was a massive cassis belli, after which Israel formally declared war on the offending combatant, Hamas. Therefore, the war in Gaza is not an “aggression,” as Hamad claims, but a consequence of war that Hamas initiated.'

    'HAMAD: The occupation must come to an end.
    Q: Occupation where? In the Gaza Strip?
    HAMAD: No, I am talking about all the Palestinian lands.
    Q: Does that mean the annihilation of Israel?
    HAMAD: Yes, of course.'

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    All I know is if a good guy is not a perfect angel then he’s not only not a good guy, he’s as bad if not worse than the worst of the bad guys.

    ^^ does the above sound dumb as hell? Yep, sure does.

    I’m dumb as hell

    and with that said, Go Hamas!


    Edit: oops I mean Go Palestinians! Dang, I really let the cat out of the bag…
     
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    Just to be clear, if Native Americans decided to reclaim their land by invading your house, raping your wife and killing your children, you’d be like: oh I totally understand, I’ll be gone tomorrow.

    And if you don’t live in the Americas imagine that you do. Or let us know where you do live.
     
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    In any case, I would make sure I get out of there quickly.
    It's always a big mistake to settle on stolen land. :(

    Anyway, you mentioned a good comparison, but there are some crucial differences:

    The US has absorbed the natives and matured for over 300 years, while “Israel” is a relatively young European colony (~75 yrs) still struggling against the indigenous people of Palestine. :(

    So it would be better to cancel the Zionist project.
    The small profit does not justify the huge effort.
     
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    That's great for those 200 lives, but that is a drop in the innocent deaths bucket. Is your proposal that Israel pause the bombing and provide full access to humanitarian aide as a response to that release? You know they won't get released regardless of any 'calls' and Israel would not change a damn thing in their tactics if they did, and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of innocent Palestinians including children will die as the mass starvation, and bombing deaths continue to mount either way.

    The hostages captured and the hostage released will not affect anything with respect to this war or how its waged. They are innocent pawns just as the Palestinian people are, its just that they represent a miniscule fraction of them.
     
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    Then the Palestinian people should be calling for liberation and to expunge Hamas from their ranks.

    But we are certainly seeing none of that go on.
     
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    Geez. Don't be dense. Who do you think has the firepower in Gaza? Who do you think has all the govt services and authority in Gaza> Are you under the impression that Hamas and its soldiers respects some second amendment right to free assembly and speech?
     
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    Isn't it interesting how leftists are always pointing towards history, 200-400 years into history, when talking about whites v blacks here in the US. But when it comes to Israel they completely ignore history and only go back to 1948 and claim anything before that is irrelevant.
     
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    So you're telling us Hamas will slaughter its own people but we're supposed to have a hard time believing they slaughter Israelis.....

    Go back and read your first four words again and think about it.
     
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    Utter bullshit Both sides in this debate, pick their own favorite links in this sorted ugly chain of history, to exploit to turn each other into predators/ victims. You want to sell your preferred agenda with your preferred start dates, and so does everyone else with an agenda. As for me, I go along with the UN General Assembly resolutions on the damn border.
     
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    That is a most poignant observation.
    Selective memory will naturally leave holes in time and one must use creative imagination to fill the void.
     
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    I would imagine that someone could even look somewhere in the Quran and find the history of Jerusalem.

    Not to mention the Old testament and I'm sure other religious text as well.
     
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