Israelis vilified for lack of "sympathy" for Hamas savages

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  1. Outsidethebox

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    Yes, but you don't KNOW that.

    IF the baby was cooked alive in an oven, it was HAMAS that did that, not the Gaza Palestinian population. Gaza's population has always been 1/2 children under the age of 18.

    “Denying the massacre is in the interest of Hamas supporters and other hostile elements operating on social networks. If you see a testimony that has no source or official confirmation—avoid spreading it. Inaccurate testimony has the potential for great harm.”

    "In a separate post the same day, FakeReporter noted: “The story about the Israeli baby whose body was found in the oven has been circulating for 24 hours and has serious consequences. The story was first circulated by pro-Israeli accounts to describe the dimensions of the massacre carried out on 7/10, but very quickly the trend reversed, and the story was used to promote Hamas propaganda and claim that Israel is fabricating evidence and inflating the numbers of the murdered.”

    Controversy surrounds reports of Israeli baby found burned alive in oven - Israel News - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)
     
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  2. Bob Newhart

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    I am not disputing this.
     
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    palestinians who don't vote for hamas are killed by hamas.
     
  4. Bob Newhart

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    You have a source for that or are we suppose to take your word for it?
     
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    What you and many others do not understand is that Israel planned and executed the events of 9/11. Its purposes were many, but a major one was to make muslims look bad, to get Americans to hate muslims. That part sure worked. Bibi admitted on camera that the events of the day were "good for Israel" or words to that effect.
     
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    That isn't what was said.

    What was said is that they didn't vote for Hammas. They absolutley did, full well knowing what Hammas said about Israel and their intent.

    And absolutely, people who voted 18 years ago are still alive, though probably many less after their vote killed 3000 Israelis and they are now reaping what they sow.

    Elections have consequences.
     
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    Fake Israeli govt propaganda. Neither the oven baby nor the 40 beheaded babies claims are true.
     
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    The numbers come straight from Hamas whose goal now is to get some one any one to stop the war while some of their cadres yet survive so they are of course lying through their teeth because the Koran says lying to infidels is perfectly acceptable.
     
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    And everyone of those 18 and up spent the last 15 years of their lives being taught that killing Jews is the greatest thing one can do for Allah. Try a different metric that one is badly flawed.
     
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    Hamas targeted Innocents. Israel didn't.
     
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    Think the dead care?
     
  12. JCS

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    Right. They're just VERY bad shots.
     
  13. garyd

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    Not Israels fault Hamas treats Palestinian women like deck chairs on the titanic.
     
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    Hamas militants include not only trained soldiers (how many no one knows), but also thousands of civilians who joined the fight post-OCT 7 after losing their family/friends & homes. Israelis claim they've killed a specific number of Hamas militants, but are unable to provide any substantive proof of their dubious figure - nor can they provide any ball park figure on how many civilians they killed.

    Here Piers Morgan repeatedly asked an Israeli spokesperson (Avi Hyman) how many civilians were killed by the IDF, but could not get a straight answer, despite his claim to know how many Hamas militants they killed.

    (video) Piers Morgan pressures Israeli spokesperson on civilian deaths in Gaza
    https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=6podLdiCgaU

    Synopsis:

    Avi Hyman said at least 14,000 Hamas fighters have been “taken out” – and then refused to say exactly how many civilians Israel believes have been killed, just blaming the “fog of war”.

    Morgan:“You have exact numbers for Hamas terrorists you’ve killed. Why wouldn’t you know how many civilians you’ve killed?”

    Hyman: “Obviously our focus is to go after the Hamas terrorists."

    Morgan: “That does imply you are putting a bigger premium on killing Hamas terrorists in terms of numbers and accountability than you are on innocent civilians. That can’t be right, surely? If you know how many Hamas terrorists you’ve killed, you must know how many civilians you’ve killed? Otherwise you’re prioritising the lives of terrorists over innocent people.”

    Hyman: “Piers, with respect, don’t put words into my mouth, please. I didn’t say exactly 14,000 I said around 14,000, whereas Hamas will come out with precise numbers.”

    Morgan asked for a “ballpark” figure, but Hyman said: “You can use the ballpark figures of Hamas, which I reject as being false.

    Morgan: "If they’re false why would you give me those?”

    Hyman: “I gave you the numbers I had."

    Morgan said he was “bemused” that Israel was not “keeping count of both” categories.

    Hyman: “I don’t have that information to give you, Piers."

    Morgan: “You literally have no idea how many civilians you’ve been killing? Sorry to push you on this, but it’s quite extraordinary. You’re an official spokesperson for the Israeli government and you have no idea how many civilians you’ve killed? I thought you just told me you were particularly careful about not killing civilians – but how can you say that with any certainty?”

    Hyman:“It’s not that I don’t know, I’m not authorised to give the information. I don’t have the information.”

    Morgan said that was “complete nonsense”.

    The spokesman just stared at Morgan in silence, before reiterating Israel’s pursuit of Hamas.

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    Again Piers Morgan asks another Israeli govt spokesperson (Eylon Levy) the same questions.

    (video) Piers Morgan SLAMS Israeli Spokesman's Claim To Have Killed "1000s Of Terrorists"
    https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=NpFbD0eTrB4

    Piers asks Eylon Levy if the ratio of Hamas members killed to civilians is justifiable, especially since it is reported that there are roughly 35,000 members of Hamas. Eylon suggests that Israel have killed thousands of terrorists, which Piers immediately challenges, suggesting he doesn't “know that” and they have no proof of such numbers.
     
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    If Israel was interested in genocide the war would have been over six months ago a couple of dozen F16 flights a a 100 or two cluster munitions and Gaze is uninhabited and uninhabitable for a generation
     
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    Yes. Hamas was stupid to bring this down on themselves.
     
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    That would not do it.
     
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    If course it would the folks underground have to come up for air eventually and when the do one wrong step and boom.
     
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    Israel has used cluster munitions en masse before and they are not as effective at genocide at you think they are.
     
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    And American taxpayers are paying for Israel's defense. How about leaving them on their own and seeing how well they do?

    Israel Is the Largest Cumulative Recipient of U.S. Aid
    Total aid from fiscal years 1946 to 2024* (constant 2022 dollars)
    https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

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    Tell that to the Hamas captains they smoked this week.
     
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    I obviously said that to be sarcastic - or didn't you notice?

    But since you brought up the killing of a Hamas captain, why is it you don't talk about the 39,480 Palestinians who have been killed and 91,128 wounded - at least 15,000 of them being children according to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. And what about the complete decimation of Gaza, the destruction of homes, hospitals, schools, industry, and farms?

    This has been a deliberate act as a means to carrying out the takeover of Gaza.
     
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    Those non-combatant casualties are collateral damage.
     
  24. JCS

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    Spoken like a true Zionist & colonialist.
     
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    Thank you! That's a compliment coming from an anti-semite.
     

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