Israelis vilified for lack of "sympathy" for Hamas savages

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  1. JCS

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    Semite definition: a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

    So you're telling me I hate Jews and Arabs?
     
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    You must, because you don't think Israel has a right to exist.
     
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  3. JCS

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    If you think that's true because you believe I hate Jews, then where would my hatred of Arabs fit into this - because, after all, I'm "anti-semitic", right?
     
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    Further reading...

    Ancient DNA Provides New Insights into Ashkenazi Jewish History
    Analysis reveals medieval genetic diversity, illuminates founder event
    The largest study to date of ancient DNA from Jewish individuals reveals unexpected genetic subgroups in medieval German Ashkenazi Jews and sheds light on the “founder event” in which a small population gave rise to most present-day Ashkenazi Jews. The findings, spearheaded by geneticists from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Harvard Medical School, were published Nov. 30 in Cell. About half of Jewish people around the world today identify as Ashkenazi, meaning that they descend from Jews who lived in Central or Eastern Europe. The term was initially used to define a distinct cultural group of Jews who settled in the 10th century in the Rhineland in western Germany.

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    Right. And Hezbollah firing anti-tank missiles in northern Israel is just a fashion statement.
     
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    So anyone who's view of Israel is different than yours is a antisemite. Got it.
     
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    People who support Hamas are antisemites.
     
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    How is supporting the resistance against an oppressive settlement/colonial agenda being anti-semitic? Why is it not simply being anti-oppression, anti-genocide, anti-ethnic cleansing, anti-colonialism/settlement, or pro-human/civil rights? The so-called "Jews" running the Israeli govt aren't even genetically or historically Semitic - and have no connection to that land.


    A few more things:


    ~71% of Israelis want Netanyahu to resign. Does this mean that 71% of Israelis are anti-semitic?

    And what about the growing anti-Zionist movement among Jews both inside and outside Israel? Are they anti-semitic?

    Israel’s ‘anti-Zionists’ brave police beatings, smears to demand end to war
    Some have been jailed for refusing to serve in the armed forces while others face threats and harassment from right-wing groups.
    ...many anti-Zionists like Maya and the people she works with view Zionism as a Jewish supremacist movement which has ethnically cleansed most of historic Palestine and systematically discriminates against the Palestinians who remain, either as citizens of Israel or residents of the occupied territories.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...calling-for-end-to-their-countrys-war-on-gaza


    Book: Jews Against Zionism: The American Council for Judaism, 1942-1948
    This is the first full-scale history of the only organized American Jewish opposition to Zionism during the 1940s. Despite extensive literature on the Zionist movement, the Jewish opposition to Zionism has received only marginal and usually negative attention. In this impartial study, Thomas A. Kolsky examines the neglected phenomenon of Jewish anti-Zionism, its roots, and its results.

    In 1942, a number of dissident Reform rabbis founded the American Council for Judaism, the first and only Jewish organization created to fight against Zionism and the establishment of a Jewish state. Emphasizing the purely religious nature of Judaism and unequivocally rejecting Jewish nationalism, the Council supported free Jewish immigration and equal rights for Jews throughout the world. For Palestine, specifically, it advocated establishment of a democratic state wherein all citizens, regardless of their religion, would enjoy equal political rights.


    (VICE video) Rebel Rabbis: Anti-Zionist Jews Against Israel

    https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=FKplabTRuak

    (video short) Orthodox Jews show solidarity with Palestinians

    https://www.youtube. com/shorts/HH0Lr2nM2qY


    JEWS AGAINST THE OCCUPATION. JATO wants peace through justice for Palestine and Israel
    (see: http://www.jatonyc.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_Against_the_Occupation ).

    Jews Against the Occupation Mission Statement: “Jews Against the Occupation is an organization of progressive, secular and religious Jews of all ages throughout the New York City area advocating peace through justice for Palestine and Israel. Our points of unity are as follows:
    • NO OCCUPATION IN OUR NAME
    • RESTORE HUMAN & CIVIL RIGHTS
    • END U.S. AID TO ISRAEL
    • STOP ECONOMIC ATTACKS ON PALESTINE
    • LET PALESTINIANS RETURN HOME
    • ANTI-SEMITISM VS. CRITIQUES OF ISRAEL
    Judaism is a cultural and religious identity, which must not be equated with Zionism, a political movement. Criticism of the state of Israel, its policies, or the idea of a Jewish state does not by itself constitute anti-Semitism. Dismissing critics of Israel or of Zionism as "anti-Semitic" is a means of stifling debate and masking the impact of the occupation.”.

    JATO on olive trees: “"When you lay siege to a city and wage war against it a long time to capture it, you must not destroy its trees." Deuteronomy 20:19. Jewish Tradition teaches us that even in a time of conflict we must not engage in collective punishment of innocent civilians.Over 30,000 Palestinian olive trees have been uprooted during the current intifada by Israeli security forces and settlers. These actions are in direct violation of Israeli law, international law, and Jewish tradition. These trees, some of them hundreds of years old, were the economic and ecological basis of Palestinian towns, having produced oil and olives for the villagers. Each one of them paid the cost of year after year of schooling for a child, or the cost of a room built for a growing child. The Struggle for a Just Peace in Israel/Palestine needs strong voices here in the U.S. Help break the silence around Jewish opposition to the Israeli government's attacks on Palestinians - home demolitions, assassinations, detentions, curfews, collective punishment, and the occupation itself.”

    [1]. Jews Against the Occupation:
    http://www.jatonyc.org/

    [2]. JATO, “Words and Actions”:
    http://www.jatonyc.org/
    https://sites.google.com/site/jewsagainstracistzionism/jews-against-the-occupation-
     
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    Opposing Israel's existence is antisemitism.
     
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    Palestinians are a Semitic people. If you oppose their right to resist foreign occupation/settlement, that makes you anti-Semitic, right?
     
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    Palestinians are terrorist supporters, who want to exterminate Jews. The Democrats are terrorist sympathizers.
     
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    Not yet, so they are innocent victims of their own leadership, who’s hatred for Jews outweighs their concern for their own population. If they can put babies in harms way for images to use in their PR war against Israel, they will.
     
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    Whatever you say, Bud.
     
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    It is not Hamas who is paying .. but the children of Palestine .. innocent civilians having nothing to do with rebel attack. And this is what makes it a war crime .. crime against humanity .. and what is this nonsense "hamas started the war" .. It is the terrorist rogue nation of Israel who is has been invading .. occupying and annexing the land of the Palestinians . Israel the aggressor .. and ethnic cleanser .. for 7 decades .. where the heck have you been ? "Hamas started the war" .. quite ridiculous nonsense .. and turns out half of the people killed during Oct 7 were killed by Israeli's .. the ones doing the raping .. gang rape .. anal rape in violent and grotesque way killing the victim .. mass kidnapping and torture .. these are sick sick people .. the brown shirts and warsaw ghetto got nothing on Bibi's concentration camp.

    and what is this nonsense .. "will be attacked again the minute the invaders pull back" .. since when has Israel ever stopped attacking over the last 70 years ..
     
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    You know I'm right.
     
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    Since when does one's denial of facts makes one "right"? But hey - if it makes you feel good, then more power to you.
     
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    I'm right because you don't see protestors attacking Palestinians. We only see protestors attacking Jews. The same protesters who are supporting terrorists. You can defend those pieces of **** all you want, I guess. It tells us everything we need to know.
     
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    They're not attacking Jews. They're protesting the Israeli govt's continued slaughter of Gaza's residents & supporting the resistance. If you support the Israeli govt killing 40,000 civilians (over 15,000 of them children), then you support terrorism.

    You're conflating resistance with terrorism. You don't understand the difference between the aggressor and the oppressed. If we were living in the US during the 18th & 19th Centuries, you'd be calling Native Americans "terrorists."
     
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    They're absolutely attacking Jews...

    Anyone flying this flag...


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    Or wearing this head scarf...

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    Supports Hamas, is a terrorist sympathizer, hates Jews and wants to murder Jews.
     
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    "The Gaza Encampment was extreme and outrageous conduct. It was illegal. It violated university rules. Its occupants harassed, followed, physically blocked, intimidated, and bullied Jewish students," the lawsuit reads.
     
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    I don't see any anti-Jew signs being held, or any indication they want to murder Jews. Where are you getting this?

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    That flag represents Palestine. It has nothing to do with terrorism.
     
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