It seems like we may have another surge of Covid-19 in the USA

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According to Florida’s Hospital Association Database, vaccines have immensely kept Covid infected people out of ICUs/off ventilators.

 

I see your experience as a good example how individuals can prevent infection if they want to. But it requires more than taking the advice of public health bureaucracies. Much more.

 

Hospitals and their associations, the AMA and the American Pediatric Associations all have blood on their hands for delivering these bioweapons. They are all guilty of crimes against humanity.

 

Yes, I have heard a lot of positive news about vaccines, but when I look at the death rate and infection rates it looks the same.
there is not much difference between the year of 2020 (without vaccines), and the year of 2021 (with vaccines),

 

There are many more dead and damaged youngsters from taking the clot shots.

8-year-old girl suffers stroke and brain hemorrhage less than a day after getting Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine (pharmaceuticalfraud.com)

“Sudden deaths” of children under the age of 12 start surfacing after COVID-19 shots approved for this age group (pharmaceuticalfraud.com)

 

It does. Which can be achieved by a very good public educational campaign, non-partisan, like I've seen done in other countries. Over here, of course, hardly a peep, and whatever a member of a party recommends, members of the other party disparage, which leads to confusion and paralysis. And our public health bureaucracy has engaged in blunder after blunder, both in the current and the previous administrations.

 

Yes, and they will report it as independent events, so everything looks great on paper.

 

Until the left finally realize and admit that the vaccinated spread the virus and the masked spread the virus, cases will continue to increase.

 

I think this is already omicron:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/cornell-university-covid-cases/index.html

The say the vast majority of cases in that outbreak are omicron.

I don't know if omicron originated in South Africa, or if they just sequenced it first. We definitely know that containing omicron by travel bans is futile. That ship has sailed probably weeks ago.

This is going to be a long, hard winter. The FDA approval of the Pfizer protease inhibitor can't come fast enough...

 

I know, I have posted about the Cornell situation already. But they didn't say the vast majority was Omicron. They said a "high" proportion was Omicron, the vast majority of which, in vaccinated people and even some who had boosters.
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Oh wait, an earlier version of this article said "high" and this one says "very high." Semantics, then. The message is, lots of Omicron there. You are right.

 

Out of the 900 cases, they don't sequence all of them. I believe the way it works is that they sequence, say, 10, and if 8 of them are omicron, they extrapolate that 80% of the total of 900 cases are caused by omicron. That's why they can't give any exact number. It would be nice, though, to know what a "very high" proportion means. We'll find out eventually. However, I think the probability is "very high" that the current surge is driven by omicron, and already has been driven by it for weeks. That would explain the large number of breakthrough cases. Time will tell, eventually we will know more as to when this new omicron surge started.

 

There are ways to strongly suspect Omicron even without genomic sequencing. It's called the "S-gene dropout." A PCR test looks for genetic material related to S (spike), inner nucleocapsid area (N2) and outer shell (E for envelope). When N2 and E are positive but S is not, Omicron is strongly suspected. It can't be confirmed unless you sequence (because some samples that present the dropout are not Omicron), but Delta typically doesn't present an S-gene dropout. Given that in another article I read, Cornell said that their lab "found strong evidence that the samples might be Omicron," (I'm paraphrasing from memory; I don't have this other article on me right now) I think they are talking about S-gene dropout rather than sequencing (which wouldn't have the "might" part as it would be a certainty in diagnosis). So, they could have mentioned the percentage of the tests that had the S-gene dropout, but I guess they left it vague because it hadn't been confirmed by sequencing. That's one possibility. The other one is what you said. I'm trying to read between the lines in their carefully vague statement.

I'm not sure about several weeks of Omicron among us. This thing seems to be so fast, with the Cornell cases showing pretty much a vertical line of growth, that in several weeks, it would have rolled all over us twice. The other article details how the Cornell cases went, and they were pretty quiescent when then they exploded in a matter of 6 days, which seems like is what Omicron does, everywhere. So I think its grand arrival to the scene is relatively recent, but it will now grow very fast, given that now it is here in large numbers.

I think we had a surge due to Thanksgiving, still Delta, and we're now bracing for what is likely to be exponential Omicron growth, fueled by Christmas.

Look at the vertical line at Cornell, scary:

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1470968315992416257?s=20

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Edit: OK, I found the article. It says "our lab identified evidence of..." so I paraphrased wrong. Maybe from something I read elsewhere. But here:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/an-explo...ll-shows-whats-next-for-the-us-154703602.html

 

You might be right about the sharp rise starting recently pointing to a recent omicron introduction to campus. A similar trend is happening at my university, although not quite as bad. Two things that may contribute to this recent college campus phenomenon that may not be applicable to the population at large. 1) It is likely that omicron came to campus after the Thanksgiving break. Lot's of students went home for the break, all over the US. Some of them brought omicron back to Cornell. 2) End of semester festivities/parties. The outbreak started in the week before finals week. This is traditionally a week when social activities among students are at a high.

In any case, the experience at these college campuses (and Cornell isn't the only one), doesn't bode well for the rest of the country in late December / January. I doubt that people will forgo traveling and Christmas parties this year. Therefore, it is likely that we'll see case numbers like never before. It is already starting in our county. Today is the day with the largest new covid case numbers, EVER. Even higher than at the peak in early January of this year.

 

That doesn't mean anything, because we didn't have delta in 2020, which is far more contagious and deadlier than 2020 variants and took out lot of unvaccinated folks. This new one, in the other hand, is much milder than either 2020 or Delta variants.

 

Yes, it's exploding and very fast. 144,871 new cases in the US today (without Michigan, Iowa, Maryland, New Mexico, and Alaska that didn't report, so it's more than that, actually, probably more like close to 160,000) and Omicron is just starting here. 88,376 in the UK, which if I understand correctly, broke again the previous record which was yesterday.

I think rapidly we'll break our record too, which I think is about 300,000 new cases per day if I'm not mistaken. Yes, I checked, 306,309 cases on January 8, 2021. I think Omicron will break that, easily.

132,474 on January 6, 2021 was the peak of hospitalized patients.

 

Once the government gets a bug up its ass, that is all they tweak on.
The fact is humans in China started it, and humans in the rest of the world have not been been able to stop it. It was used for research because it caused illness in mammals and birds. (What good is a harmless bio weapon?)
It is going to either have to burn out on its own or we are going to keep having injections until our bodies rebel and we have to face the music.
We are chasing a ghost.
There is a bit of science futurism that has not been suggested yet: clone the small pox virus, and strip it of its pathogenic* properties, and then insert a mild coronavirus that has been engineered to make the immunization antibodies, and take advantage of the ease of smallpox transmission. (BTW, this is why smallpox stocks are not destroyed)

*ability to create disease

 

Except the media doesn’t have Trump to blame.

 

Who the **** is dying from omicron?

As of Dec 10th

https://yournews.com/2021/12/10/2264973/who-no-deaths-reported-as-a-result-of-omicron-variant/

It's a MILD VARIANT. **** off with your fear mongering. Infections will go up. It will burn itself out in a few months and disappear just as quickly as it came. The only question is if the next variant is going to stronger or weaker then Omicron.

People who fear monger need a smack upside the head.

 

Sigh... there are like 10 errors in your short post. You don't seem to know anything about Virology and Immunology. But at this time I'm too tired of this to even tell you why you're wrong. Have a nice day.

 

Well thanks for the drive by anyway.

If you have a solution, do tell. So far, we are always one version of Covid behind the last one. I just had my third shot.

 

Surge is an understatement. The numbers are skyrocketing in all walks of life. Biden is an idiot saying death will come to the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are dying to you flipping moron!

 

Just in time to get the former vice presidents latest failure out of the headlines.

Wasn't it funny how the last one surged right when he ****ed up Afghanistan?

It's uncanny the amount of news that are covering these surges only when the moron president blunders.

Makes me wonder.

News wants to do everything in their power to avoid talking about how the infrastructure bill was a complete failure. So oh no the spooky new omicron variant is out to get you be scared and most importantly do not change that channel.

 

Don't you dare say that about the vaccinated.

Lol

 

You don't have any authority to tell anybody why they're wrong.

 

Put all those people that died in 2021 are all on vaccinated and don't look into that too hard just trust me. And trust all the fake "fact checkers" / "ministry of truth" that says so too.

I mean they're called fact checkers that means they're telling you what effects are and if you disagree do you call yourself a fact checker...I don't think so

Lol